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Old 09-19-2019, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2012 Focus EV as my next car?

There is a local guy selling a Focus EV for a very reasonable price. It's a 2012 with 36k miles on it. I'm trying to find more info, but there just aren't many of these things out there. Do any of you guys have any tips or things to look for on these cars? Any personal experience with them to note? Professional reviews are not what I'm looking for and that seems to be most of what is available.

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Old 09-19-2019, 12:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A coworker of mine has the same generation regular Focus. He has had numerous issues with the electrical wiring in the car. His car maybe has 100k miles? The 10-spd automatic transmission on the Focus and Fiesta is probably one of the worst in history along with Nissan's CVTs, but that isn't an issue for an EV.

Ford cars always make me leery from what I've heard of them, but I haven't owned one so I can't speak from that angle. Many manufacturers with sub-par cars make excellent EVs (Nissan Leaf vs other CVT Nissans, for example). I've heard good things about the Cmax, but haven't read much about the Focus EV. I'd surmise they're pretty similar aside from the Cmax still having a gasoline engine.

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It's a Ford so I would say no.
Probably better off with a leaf.
Fully functional battery swaps for older leaf cars are happening now.
The Nissan leaf doesn't have a CVT, just a single fixed gear, a parking lock. No pumps, filters, lines, solenoids, valves, clutches, belts, bands, torque convert converter ect to fool with
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What is a reasonable price?

Did the Ford have active thermal management?

Usually I participate in a model specific forum months before purchasing a vehicle just to have a sense of the strengths and weaknesses, as well as what to look for in a used vehicle and what people are paying for them.
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$5900 is the price. Owned by a guy retiring and doesn't need the car anymore.

It does have active thermal management. It heats and cools the pack. It uses LG chem cells.

I honestly didn't even check if there was a forum for the car. They only sold about 1500 a year as it was just a compliance car so they could continue to sell in California.
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Here is the ad:

https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto...974878233.html
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I am not dissatisfied with the Mirage, but I have wanted an EV for a long time.
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What do you know about it?
How does the heat work?
Looks like it has a 6.6kw j1772 and leaf like range, liquid cooled batt.
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I would pass - with only 1500 a year sold there's no way there are qualified techs who know how to work on it

I have the same issue with my Volt, and they've sold 150,000 of them. It's been back in the shop for a week now and I get the feeling the Volt tech is training himself by watching youtube videos and reading the Volt owners forums
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What do you know about it?
How does the heat work?
Looks like it has a 6.6kw j1772 and leaf like range, liquid cooled batt.
I don't know much. That's why I am asking here haha.

No idea on the heat. I would imagine resistance heating. Edit: yep, resistance heating

It does seem very similar to the Leaf. But I don't think I've even seen a Leaf this cheap by me.

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