06-08-2013, 12:29 AM
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At first glance I thought this is finally the first Toyota ever that isn't boring, drab, beige. After a closer look I realize I'm wrong. Still boring.
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06-08-2013, 08:28 AM
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Another thing to keep in mind with Toyota is they have to walk a fine line when improving the efficiency of their conventional drivetrain cars to protect the hybrid crown.
Can't have a 45 mpg hwy Corolla eating into sales of the 50 mpg Prius lineup.
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i think this is spot on. could they make the corolla get 45+ hwy? sure no problem, but there is no real incentive. other manufacturers are in the 38-42 range so why beat them and cause potential confusion for the consumer between a corolla and a prius.
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06-08-2013, 09:12 AM
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At first glance I thought this is finally the first Toyota ever that isn't boring, drab, beige. After a closer look I realize I'm wrong. Still boring.
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True, and while I see your point (and agree with you, especially with a mid-range car like the Corolla), my boring, drab, beige Toyota still saves me a lot of money, both on gas and on repairs.
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06-08-2013, 09:29 AM
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I do not see what the problem is. Make the Corolla get 50 MPG and the Prius get 75!
It is not like it is impossible...
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06-08-2013, 02:43 PM
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I do not see what the problem is. Make the Corolla get 50 MPG and the Prius get 75!
It is not like it is impossible...
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That " makes sense" but, unfortunately, it doesn't make " enough ˘ents" for them to think that far ahead & out of the box.
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06-08-2013, 04:39 PM
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Yeah. Their job isn't to save money by not burning gas, it's to make money selling cars to people who want to save money by not burning gas. All they have to do is stay at or near the head of the pack on FE and they'll make their money.
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06-08-2013, 08:08 PM
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I do not see what the problem is. Make the Corolla get 50 MPG and the Prius get 75!
It is not like it is impossible...
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It's clearly not impossible, but the lazy-arse average Joe wouldn't want to get rid of some comfort features to save a few pounds  |
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06-08-2013, 08:31 PM
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They lead the pack in hybrids, but what real competition do they have? Sure, there are other hybrids, but they might get the mileage of the Corolla. Big deal.
Is there a niche for the new Insight? It costs less than a Prius, slightly less than a Prius C, but it does not even equal the mileage of the Civic hybrid, let alone the Prii.
So, is there a real competitor to the Prius? (Let's not get into the TDi debate. I recognize that as a very good car)
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06-08-2013, 08:40 PM
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If the Insight (or Prius for that matter) came with a conventional manual, I would have seriously considered them. I did seriously consider the CR-Z, but decided I couldn't do without a back seat.
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06-08-2013, 11:18 PM
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It's clearly not impossible, but the lazy-arse average Joe wouldn't want to get rid of some comfort features to save a few pounds |
I was positive that you were going to say something about diesel, but you surprised me this time! 
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