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Atlantis the Lost Continent
Writings before Plato, place Atlantis west of Gibralter, which would be beyond the known world at the time, so it makes N. Africa a problematic location, even if it's location were right along the coastline at the time.
And there's always the possibility that 'Atlantis' were merely some Homeric-esque, Canaanite metaphorical tool, used in storytelling, about some aspect of the spectrum of human potential or folly.
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Writings before Plato, place Atlantis west of Gibralter, which would be beyond the known world at the time, so it makes N. Africa a problematic location, even if it's location were right along the coastline at the time.
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I didn't find the original text (Solon via Plato) but some sources say beyond rather than 'west of'.
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Lost City of Atlantis And Its Incredible Connection to ...
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It was a port city located "past the 'Pillars of Hercules'", which Jacobovici explained is known today as the Straits of Gibraltar. In Plato's account, Solon describes the destruction of Atlantis by a natural disaster which covered the coastal city with mud and water. According to the story, the city sank into the ground and disappeared.
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Then you have the place names. The Atlas Mountains, named for King Atlas, the reputed first king of Atlantis. The dry waterfalls to the North. The sea salt all over the ground.
"known world"? Ask the Olmecs.
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Ok so we don't know where ( kinda my point).
How about when? (Could be even harder but would lead to where) the Mediterranean formation is within human evolution of several subgroups capable of civilization
Do isolated subcultures like the Incas or Mayans have traditions of a sunk city? How about the Australian aboriginal, Thai, Hawaiian, or Japanese. The natives of the western Atlantic subtropics do but everyone generally ignores them.
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When was the end of the Younger Dryas.
There are legends about the [re-]filling of the Mediterranean basin, and of course the Black Sea and Doggerland Banks are littered with archeological sites.
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Couple of flood events on the Mediterranean, including when it was an ocean before Africa arrived and may or may not had human(ish) habitation then and the final one where it looks like today.
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I didn't find the original text (Solon via Plato) but some sources say beyond rather than 'west of'.
Then you have the place names. The Atlas Mountains, named for King Atlas, the reputed first king of Atlantis. The dry waterfalls to the North. The sea salt all over the ground.
"known world"? Ask the Olmecs.
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Yes, this is what's been described as the end of the known world. If 'west' as mentioned in whatever I was looking at was correct, it would place Atlantis in the Eastern Atlantic Basin.
The guts of the story could date to before Sumer and Babylonia, and passed down only as oral traditions, morphing and embellishing with every telling.
There's a bunch of that in the earliest Hebrew texts.
My opinion is that, Atlantis was never a place, just a construct used for thematic storytelling. Like Troy.
Long ago, major floods came twice a year, and biblical archaeologists think now that, there was no single Noah flood event, just lots of flood events. They can't even get the shape of the ark correct. The earliest stella presents it as something like a 220-foot diameter circle.
We could look at the plate tectonics and volcanism of the period. Earthquakes, sea floor subsidence. Tsunamis. Underwater mud slides.
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Younger Dryus
I think it was 12,000 years ago.
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Mauritania
Mauritania, officially the Islamic Republic of Mauritania, is a sovereign state in Northwest Africa. It is bordered by the Atlantic Ocean to the west, Western Sahara to the north and northwest, Algeria to the northeast, Mali to the east and southeast, and Senegal to the southwest.Wikipedia
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It was -- until the geological uplift put it a thousand feet above sea level.
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Thanks for pointing that out. Irving Finkel is one of my favorite BBC presenters.
youtube.com/results?search_query=finkel+noah%27s+ark
www.broadcastnow.co.uk/opinion/critics/tv-critics-the-real-noahs-ark-doctor-who-sunday-night-at-the-palladium-the-suspicions-of-mr-whicher/5077543.article
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