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Old 03-12-2008, 06:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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My uncle said that diesel more than $4.00 where he lives (Ohio) because of the snowstorm. Apparently his gas prices are way more than mine also (3.099 here ). For those of you wondering why I was on the phone talking to my uncle about gas prices, well he owns gas stations, and so does my dad. (double )

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Old 03-12-2008, 07:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I can't find it but I though I read that it uses more engery to make a gallon of diesel then gasoline. I remember when I saw it it did not seem right because it come off first in the cracking process. Can anybody verify that?
Wow, now I am really mixed up. I thought it was the other way around. I thought diesel was a "less processed" form of fuel (hence all the dirtiness). The less-processed aspect led me to believe that it was less energy intensive.

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I think diesel has to be made hotter or with more compression or something (i'm not sure what exactly it is) in order to get it to burn the way it does. same thing with propane, butane, gasoline, etc. But I think diesel uses more energy because of something...
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Well send us some gas cards man!!! it's around $3.30 around here
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Wow, now I am really mixed up. I thought it was the other way around. I thought diesel was a "less processed" form of fuel (hence all the dirtiness). The less-processed aspect led me to believe that it was less energy intensive.

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Retracing my steps. It not more energy it's more oil. Although they say it pollutes more. Here's some interesting reading.

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Since Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards give credit to vehicles based on fuel economy rather than oil use, and a gallon of low-sulfur diesel fuel requires 25 percent more oil than a gallon of low-sulfur reformulated gasoline, putting more diesel vehicles on the road without also raising fuel economy standards could actually increase U.S. oil dependence. CAFE standards should, at a minimum, compare gasoline and diesel on an energy-equivalent basis.
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$5 gas is in Gorda, CA. And nothing else apparently...
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100 gallons a day? WTF!?
Probably running at least a 25kW generator, the kind that go on a trailer. They're powering a whole gas station, coolers, pumps, lights, etc. Maybe even a 60kW.
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The question I have is why?

I mean it just doesn't sound like a lucrative location to have a business if that's the only source of power. Get a windmill or something if there's no access to the electrical grid. That's like spending $400+ a day in just a power bill.
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well in one day it went up to 3.40. tomorrow will probably be worse

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