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Old 08-08-2015, 09:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Phantom Blot (Spökplumpen in swedish) - '75 Saab 96 V4
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+50 mpg (US) with 40 year old Saab 96

It's always nice to find a new place for bragging!
I have had my 1975 Saab 96 V4 "Phantom Blot" ("Spökplumpen" in swedish, after the Disney character) four or five years now. It's an old beaten piece of junk actually, full of rusty holes and hand painted black all over, even covering the crome details. I have replaced the engine two or three times over the years, but I now seems to have a piece of gold instead of cast iron.

When I started driving this car, my fuel consumption as well as driving style were quite average, but then a very interesting exploration ito ecodriving started. I've learned about Brake Specifik Fuel Consuption charts and why there is a narrow "sweet-spot" for most piston engines. I've also learned hos to stay withing this spot as much as possible by practising "Burn & Glide", "Burn & Coast", "Pulse & Glide" or whatever people call this crazy driving style. This together with a bit lowered speed, "Driving Without Brakes" and engine shutdown while coasting have given quite some results!

For this entire summer I have mostly kept my 40 year old carburettet piece of junk around 50 mpg (US) = 4,6 litres per 100 km. This is about HALF of what some Saab owners are more familiar with, but most Saab 96 owners average out somewhere in the middle of these two extremes.

Here's my fuel log:
1975 Saab 96 V4 Gas Mileage (Phantom Blot (Spökplumpen in swedish)) - EcoModder.com

My usual driving goes mostly in the countryside and rural areas where I'm quite alone and don't upset traffic with my crazy "yo-yo" driving. I often cross the heart of Stockholm, the capitol of Sweden, sometimes during rush hour. If I have to travel on highway and adapt my driving to other cars, my fantasticly low fuel efficiency will fail abruptly. If a lot more drivers started practising this amazing style of driving it would be chaos in the streets I suppose.

My basic principles are:

Never burn more fuel than is actually needed to take you to the next point of descissions. -If you are planning to do a sharp turn in a crossing or see a high probability for a traffic light to go red, adapt your burn-cycle to this and hope for the best. Shut off the engine as soon as the burn-cycle have given you the speed you aimed for.

The brake pedal is for emergency and other unpredicted traffic situations only. If you need to use the brakes for other than keeping the car steady in a slope while waiting for green light, your planning have failed. The expensive fuel is used for getting you where you want to go, all the brakes do is to throw all that away by converting forward motion to heat.

All other cars, pedestrians and bikers are only there to interrupt your flow. If they see a chance to a sabotage, they will take that chanse. Your misssion is to make them fail. By becomming super-observant you can often think ahead of these terrorists and manage to slip through. In city traffic, it's not uncommon to pass the same stressed and agressiv BMW owner several times, without using the throttle or brakes much at all. -It's all about keeping the eyes open, "read" the traffic and make clever descicions, and that works so amazingly well!

I'm quite heavy on my right foot actually, and other drivers sometimes see me disappear in front of them. Then it all changes as I'm through with my burn-cycles and shuts down my engine to coast. Most other drivers keep accelerating to pass me, despite the fact that they are appproaching a traffic light that is already red... It's not uncommon that I'm well prepared for this and can change lane early enough to pass by those braking succers, and repeat this time after time...

I have a big green sign in my rear window, bragging about my best fuel efficiency result ever, 4,3 litres / 100 km, but there's also a warning/ explanation to my driving style that can be read while driving slow.

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Old 08-08-2015, 06:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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NICE. Really good results.

My dad had a 1970 96, I learned to drive in that car. The driving tester did NOT know quite what to make of it, a four-speed manual shifter on the column.

Not trying especially hard, Dad was able to get 40mpg on long trips. I always suspected somebody could get respectable numbers out of a 96 if we could just get the car and an enthusiast in the same place at the same time, and here you are.

Thanks for sharing!
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That V4 was a Ford-of-Britain industrial "street sweeper" engine as I recall (my Dad had one)!
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I think you're confusing the SAAB's Taunus V4 with the Essex V4. They're similar but unrelated.

The Essex got a lot of British applications including the Mk I Transit van and was probably a good, compact choice for a streetsweeper. But the Taunus V4 was almost exclusively applied to German Ford vehicles and a couple of SAABs.
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...thanks for the clarification. All I recall (it's been quite awhile ago) was that when I contacted Ford asking for info on the V4 in my Dad's SAAB, they sent me back a Factory Parts booklet...for street sweeper engines, a V6 and V4, both from Ford Europe.

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Old 08-13-2015, 03:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Phantom Blot (Spökplumpen in swedish) - '75 Saab 96 V4
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I got 4,16 L100 today, thats over 56 mpg (US)! I have deepened the B&G cycles a bit and reduced cycle top speed from almost 90 km/h to just over 80. The result strictly by numbers is even better, but I topped up the fuel to next integer as I always do.
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Old 08-13-2015, 04:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That V4 was a Ford-of-Britain industrial "street sweeper" engine as I recall (my Dad had one)!
That's a common confusion. There were a somewhat similar V4 engine by brittish Ford, but at a closer look itś an entirely different animal known as the Essex V4. The Ford V4 used in the Saab is the german "Cologne V4", closely related to the Cologne V6 and can't easily be replaced by the Essex V4.

The german V4 is a bit smaller, both by outer measures and bore/stroke. The verson used in Saab 95/96 had 1500cc/65hp but rally people sometimes replaced it by the 1700 version from Ford Taunus 17M.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Taunus_V4_engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V4_engine

Hmmm... street-sweeper...? I've never heared about that application in particular, but I know the Cologne/Taunus V4 was used in at least one odd application, a smaller tracked offroad vehicle named Iller (ferret in Swedish). The V6 version was used in older versions of the swedish army's lightweight articulated tracked vehicle Bandvagn 206 among others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandvagn_206
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Eh... how about 4.03/58.3? What's happening here? =:-o
Does somebody fill up my car while I'm sleeping?
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Here's one of those Ford V4 powered street sweepers:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...EdcHgHtGEeQN-Q

but, I think it's the larger 1.7L engine, not the original 1.5L (104 cid).
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Here's one of those Ford V4 powered street sweepers....
but, I think it's the larger 1.7L engine, not the original 1.5L (104 cid).
Nope, sorry, but that's definitely not a Ford V4 of any kind. Looks like a straight-3 or 4. 1997 is probably also long after the "cologne V4" production ended. Perhaps The Ford V4 was used in an older model of the same type of street-sweeper? I have to try finding out, that's a cool application!

Here's a Cologne V4 rally version with huge carburettors and dual port exhaust: http://www.classicteile-oed.de/grafik/motor%20Kopie.jpg

...and the brittish Essex V4: http://www.classicfordmag.co.uk/file...53.staffv4.jpg

-Similar only at first glance.

EDIT: The text for the PowerBoss Armadillo street-sweeper says "Ford V4" but at a closer look the engine sure looks like a push-rod straight-4 with an unusual distributor location. Some web search indicates it may be a 1300 cc engine. (= Fiesta, Ka, Escort?)

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