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Old 10-07-2008, 03:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
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jjackstone- I saw that interview. It made me think, whats the point? When you can accomplish a project like the forkenswift, or ben's eletric metro for just a few thousand. Sure not everyone is as mechanically inclined as those guys. Seems that there could be a growing need for conversion shops.
I can't wait to see what Tesla's new 4 door sedan will look like for $60,000. With a 200 mile range that would seem like a better deal than the Volt.
If the big auto manufaturers take the lead in the EV world then prices will never be in the affordable range. Personally I think the independent developers will be what keeps prices affordable.

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Old 10-07-2008, 11:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Don't forget that there are OTHER plug-in electric vehicles out there. A $7,500 credit would make a Green EV Triac cost around $12,500.
The Triac: An Affordable Electric Car

Eligability and credit awarded seems to be based solely on vehicle weight and battery capacity.

Plug-in: "uses an offboard source of energy to recharge such battery"
Battery Requirement: ">4 kilowatt hours"
"has received a certificate of conformity under the Clean Air Act"

Allowable credit is then determined by vehicle weight.

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Old 10-07-2008, 11:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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put HUB motors on any new ICE car - include modest battary pack and plug in recharging capability and you have a plug in hybrid.

Depending on the side of the BAT pack - you could almost design the system to completely offset the rebate - selling a hybrid car for Net $0 compared to the standard ICE.

If i had my druthers ( and time - money - skills) i would take the Altima and add rear wheel hub motors + bat back for plug in hybrid. use ELE for sub 40 in town driving and leave the ICE for longer trps / higher speeds.

If someone is on the ball - they would work with a dealer and make this happen NOW - would be HUGE impact on amount of fuel burned.

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Here is a link to a couple write-ups about the credit. From what I see it is for plug-in [I]hybrid[I]vehicles. And of course one must have a minimum sized battery pack. I have seen both 4Kwh and 6Kwh listed as the min.
Hybrid Car Blog - Hybrid cars and plug-in hybrid vehicles news and info: $7,500 plug-in hybrid tax credit passes Senate - Too favorable to Volt?

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Old 10-09-2008, 03:38 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Doofus- I like the way you think. I'm sure there's someone on this forum right now thinking of how they could pull that idea off. I wish I could attempt it.
Extenuating circustances say no for me right now.
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Don't forget that there are OTHER plug-in electric vehicles out there. A $7,500 credit would make a Green EV Triac cost around $12,500..
I was beginning to wonder about those Triacs- but at the Palo Alto EV Rally I saw one. I like! Hope they make it, but Zap pretty much turned off a lot of people. Sad, but a Wired article was so "anti" Zap, I subscribed; so now I may see a more positive Triac test.
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WHOA! The Triac Microwatt is under $12K; minus $7500.? What is wrong with this picture?
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Let me put this back up... Sorry.

Are you saying that to those people who did convert their ICE to EV's will get nothing? You need to buy it? Any details for those people who convert their ICE?
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Lee Hart is almost done with his prototype kit car (the Sunrise 2) that should get about 100 miles per charge with in-city driving on Lead Acid. I don't think his cars will be from used ones but I'm not sure. His is going to be relatively cheap, so $7500 off the price would make it very very affordable. However, the stimulous money probably won't be available as an option because it's just him and a couple others that are developing it.
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Paul,

Have you seen this... this is a local company in Bellingham.
Check the main page about the stimulus...
Electric Vehicles of Washington

Then I had a chat with our local government to ask how true this was... and they have no clue... but they pointed me on this website...
Tax Breaks Available for Taxpayers Who Purchase Qualified Plug-In Electric Vehicles


Now im getting somewhere... I think the keyword is EESA...
Then I found this...
New Tax Credits for Electric Vehicles | Auto Credit Express Bad Credit Car Loan Blog


See. this is what they said....
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act also contains provisions for a tax credit for vehicles that have at least four wheels that are powered through the use of a rechargeable traction battery that has, as a minimum, 4 kilowatt-hours of storage capacity. For 2009, the minimum credit for this type of vehicle is $2,500 and the credit maxes out at anywhere from $7,500 to $15,000, depending on the vehicle’s weight and the capacity of its battery.

so do we qualify?

But how to file for tax credit or rebate... no clue.

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