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Old 10-25-2017, 04:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Seems like a waste starting with a 4x4 and ripping the guts out to make it more fuel efficient. Would it not be more practical to sell/trade the 4x4 for a 2wd model? Around here a 4x4 would go for double an equivalent 2wd in the used market.

Swapping/trading for a 2wd you would likely make a bit of money on the trade and already have a truck that is lighter, lower, has less moving parts, smoother front suspension, and likely a taller axle ratio.

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Old 10-25-2017, 06:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Being practical I need a 4x4 to get through winter I just can't help but think how much more efficient a 2wd would be. I'm leaving it 4x4 for now and will work on other ways to make it more efficient
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A couple weeks ago I installed a Kats circulating water heater but it's not really circulating the coolant the lines get warm up to about 6" from the pump but that's it I'm thinking about adding a pump to help it. Any ideas or suggestions?
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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The main thing is that you install the circulating tank heater LOW in comparison to the engine. The heated coolant has to be able to flow up vertically via natural convection. Pretty much the lower you can mount it, the better it'll work.

Also, if you have it installed in series with your heater core, make sure your heat is set to on when you turn off the car. Most cars have a heater core bypass valve that closes the heater core coolant circuit if the heat isn't on.
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:58 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I mounted it flat below the radiator tapped into the lower radiator hose and into one of the heater hoses
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:59 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm also thinking about a oil pan heater and a small 250 watt ceramic heater for inside the cab
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Finally got tires https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.j...omCompare1=yes
But I didn't pay $250 each I got a lightly used set on Craigslist with about 75% tread left for $100
They're what I run on my truck. But MPG is better with the closed shoulder A/S model. I lost .75-1.00 to annual average, easily.

Be sure to check date code on tires. Five or more years (seven) is getting near end.

Biggest problem with pickups is steering.

Bilstein 4160 shocks, first, to help it track.

Then, from new steering column shaft, all the way out to new tie rods.

All the aero in the world won't offset "wander".

Pickups have bad road feel, new. And being to read the road and adapt is big. One needs to be able to distinguish between road problems and wind problems.

A pickup where the driver can't make these distinctions can't accurately tune the suspension, which they all need. They'll go down the highway sawing the wheel and the truck is at mercy of ruts and adverse wind. Bye-bye margin. It's all sucked up as extra HP demand, whether at low speed (rolling resistance) or high speed (aero resistance).

IOW, there's no way to get a clean baseline.

Tire pressure according to Load, alignment and no brake drag are great. But if one wants best MPG, it's steering first, suspension tuning second, and aero last.

Addco and Helwig both make replacement anti-roll bars. Is there one on rear?

Sort out what you'll do with drivetrain, first. Because after zeroed tracking problems comes wind effect on body. Where some (possibly) different anti-roll bars will isolate steering from crosswind.

The aerocap WILL increase sail area.

Load the truck, and a tired old front end will steal your efforts.

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Old 11-12-2017, 10:56 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm going to have to get on that so far the only thing I've done suspension wise is loosening the torsion bolts to lower the front 2" and I think I might have a bad wheel bearing on the front.
On a side note I got my coolant heater working it was laying completely flat and not moving any water I twisted the bracket so the out line is facing more upward and now it works good
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:10 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Small update I got a couple parts ordered from American muscle
https://www.americanmuscle.com/black...ghts-9703.html
https://www.americanmuscle.com/bellt...-9703-4wd.html
I expect a small increase in fuel economy and a large boost in safety. It's dear hunting season here and a lot of them run onto the road the projectors should help me see them better and the lowering kit will make the truck more resistant to rolling in the case of sliding winter is coming. Also my daughter has a hard time getting into the truck and a lower truck is easier to load stuff into.
Looks are just a bonus ;-)

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