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[litesong]

Originally Posted by TexasCotton

.......cardboard soaked in pork drippings sold as food.

One restaurant (at least?) had one of its cooks dipping & using a sewer dredge to obtain its "cooking oil". All, on the up & up, & extra taste sensations in communist china (always small letters).

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The new nation of Ecotopia consists of Northern California, Oregon, and Washington

For decades, conservatives have been trying to make a separate state, consisting of Eastern Washington & eastern Oregon. As different as conservatives say eastern WA & e. OR are from western WA & w. OR, eastern OR is different for e. WA.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Let the record show I was quoting someone else, and the part I bolded was truncated.

Shenanigans.

Jefferson (proposed Pacific state)

In October 1941, the Mayor of Port Orford, Oregon, Gilbert Gable, said that the Oregon counties of Curry, Josephine, Jackson, and Klamath should join with the California counties of Del Norte, Siskiyou, and Modoc to form a new state, later named Jefferson.

I had an uncle that lived in Port Orford and worked in a coop plywood mill.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by litesong

For decades, conservatives have been trying to make a separate state, consisting of Eastern Washington & eastern Oregon.

This video by Black Pigeon Speaks (He's a Canadian ex-pat) says that Alberta (just to their north) has similar inclination, as they are bankrolling Eastern Canada but get no respect.

Of course Quebecois want out too.

[Fat Charlie]

These regions that resent bankrolling the rest of the country look like guys who won "big" with a scratch-off ticket and then want to ditch the ol' ball and chain.

Reminds me of Colbert's explanatory map of one of the worse California split proposals. "Billionaires' Enclave" was right next to "Really West Virginia". Because you don't want your town to have to fund that town's schools, you know?

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

These regions that resent bankrolling the rest of the country look like guys who won "big" with a scratch-off ticket...

putin's russian internet trolling is giving much play to all these separatist movements. We're seeing putin & putin's boy "don'T rump", increase totalitarian dictators influence in the world...just using the freebee internet.

[redpoint5]

Government is supposed to be as local as possible, to be responsive to the needs and will of those localities. If a minority of people don't like how things are run, they can either convince the rest of the population to make a change, or move. If an overwhelming majority of a region wants to be governed differently, they should. That could involve something as extreme as creating a unique state.

[freebeard]

...just using the freebee internet.

Has it occurred to you yet that free and open source software has consumed the world and made your globalist/nationalist politics irrelevant?*

Richard Stallman did nothing wrong.

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

These regions that resent bankrolling the rest of the country look like guys who won "big" with a scratch-off ticket [...] and then want to ditch the ol' ball and chain.

The urban/rural divide goes 'way back. Probably as old as cities. The Romans had a word for 'hillbilly'.

North American populations are heavily weighted toward the East coast. More locally states/cities like Oregon/Portland or New York/NYC manifest the same divisions.

*Marshall McLuhan, The Medium Is The Message —1964