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Old 02-10-2010, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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anyone own or used to have Mercedes with diesel or gas

I have decided to get Mercedes in summer but I know they are terrible on gas but big engine.

It seem that Mercedes have 2 different engines. 1 is 6 cylinders inline and 1 is V8. 1 diesel I think 5 cylinder inline.


Was almost bought but couldn't sell vehicles I have. Why I want Mercedes because Michigan's pothole are rough on your body it feel like you ride in school bus everyday.

I am curious what mpg do you get with Mercedes? What model and engine that will help me very much.

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The V8 is like a monster, the old ones are even worse, like the father of the monster. There was one 450SEL in 1977 the car is like a tank. Huge engine, HUGE, no mpg what so ever may be 10/14 city/highway. I use to have '85 diesel 300TD, great car even i was thinking to convert it to WVO but never got the money, sold it and went to school feel my hard drive with more info?!?!
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I have decided to get Mercedes in summer but I know they are terrible on gas but big engine.

It seem that Mercedes have 2 different engines. 1 is 6 cylinders inline and 1 is V8. 1 diesel I think 5 cylinder inline.


Was almost bought but couldn't sell vehicles I have. Why I want Mercedes because Michigan's pothole are rough on your body it feel like you ride in school bus everyday.

I am curious what mpg do you get with Mercedes? What model and engine that will help me very much.
List of Mercedes-Benz engines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have many more than 3 types of engines.
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I should say clearly. I am not buy new or oldest.

Just around 280 560 or any model.
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If you want MPG, look for a W123 1977-83 240D diesel with the 4-speed manual. I believe they're good for at least 30 MPG. But they are slow. 68 HP in a 3000 lb sedan kind of slow.

The W123 300D 1977-81 diesels and 1982-85 turbodiesels have more power, but get more like 25 MPG. 300TD is the wagon and 300SD is a larger car with the same engine.

Both are weird cars with great engines. I had a 1985 300D for a few years but never got it roadworthy. I sold it to concentrate on a pair of Geo Metros.

The W201 190D and 190E are probably pretty efficient, but I don't know much about them.
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If you want MPG, look for a W123 1977-83 240D diesel with the 4-speed manual. I believe they're good for at least 30 MPG. But they are slow. 68 HP in a 3000 lb sedan kind of slow.

The W123 300D 1977-81 diesels and 1982-85 turbodiesels have more power, but get more like 25 MPG. 300TD is the wagon and 300SD is a larger car with the same engine.

Both are weird cars with great engines. I had a 1985 300D for a few years but never got it roadworthy. I sold it to concentrate on a pair of Geo Metros.

The W201 190D and 190E are probably pretty efficient, but I don't know much about them.
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CLK 430 will get you around 20 MPG. More can be had with hypermiling, but I'm not sure it will respond that well to HM techniques. (I've tried, without much luck. And I can't EOC the thing because, in part, it's an automatic.)

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I was just checking a 190e local, the price is carzy cheap.

the 190e is 2.6 six cyl, but not a racing one, that may be a decent candidate for fuel...except 4 valves a cyl. I passed on it. inline bouncing up and down all around..as if I want four openings in a slob already.
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the 190e is 2.6 six cyl, but not a racing one, that may be a decent candidate for fuel...except 4 valves a cyl. I passed on it. inline bouncing up and down all around..as if I want four openings in a slob already.
The M103 engine in the 2.6 inline 6 you looked at is a 2 valve/cyl engine. If you want efficient, get the newest 190e 2.3 M102 4 cyl you can find and megasquirt it. Thats what I did to mine.
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From the factory all gasoline Benzes up to 1993 had Kjet mechanical fuel injection. Its horribly in efficient and a real pain in the ass to maintain. With Megasquirt, it consistently gets 30mpg everywhere with a 4 speed auto. You can even find these with 5 speed manual transmissions if you're lucky. I'm planning to swap a 5 speed into mine this summer.

The other options are a 1997 C230 (naturally aspirated) with a 5 speed auto or a 2001+ C230 with a 6 speed manual. All of the old diesels are painfully slow, over priced or completely worn out. You can find a clean 190e 2.3 for less than $1500 with 120k miles or less. I paid $1000 for my 93 with 105k miles on the odometer.
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The W201 (190e) and W124 (300e) were both way ahead of their time in terms of aerodynamics. The 190e had a CD of .32 which could be brought down to .29 with a factory body kit. The base model 300e with skinny tires had a CD of .28.


Unfortunately the 300e was never offered in the US with a 4 cylinder engine. The mecedes models produced between about 1980 and 1995 are some of the highest quality cars ever produced. Soon after Mercedes was forced to cut cost in order to compete with Lexus and Acura. They never recovered.

All mercedes models sold in the US after 1985 have at least 1 airbag and ABS brakes. Some even have traction control starting in the late 80s.

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If you want MPG, look for a W123 1977-83 240D diesel with the 4-speed manual. I believe they're good for at least 30 MPG. But they are slow. 68 HP in a 3000 lb sedan kind of slow.
I like the W123 but it has the aerodynamics of my house. You'll be lucky to ever see 30mpg out of the diesel. Mercedes started using a wind tunnel with the W126. It looks similar to the W123 but its aerodynamically much cleaner.

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You can find a clean 190e 2.3 for less than $1500 with 120k miles or less. I paid $1000 for my 93 with 105k miles on the odometer.
Where? I'd love to find a clean 2.3L 190e for $1000+ in CA.

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