Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-11-2008, 12:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,549

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.8 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,313
Thanked 6,123 Times in 3,177 Posts
Article: Two decades later, Bellingham man puts 100 mpg car back on the road

Two decades later, Bellingham man puts 100 mpg car back on the road - Bellingham Herald



Some ofyou may have seen this one before.

- originally built in '84
- builders claim 100 mpg (US) at 60 mph, 80 mpg At 70 mph, 114 mpg at 55 mph
- 1500 lbs
- fiberglass/aluminum construction
- unspecified 3-cyl Mercedes diesel engine
- plan to enter an updated version in the Automotive X-Prize contest

Quote:
[In 1986...] the duo drove the car from the U.S./Mexico border to Vancouver, B.C. - averaging 103.7 miles per gallon and spending less than $15 on the diesel that fueled their drive into the Guinness Book of World Records.

...

"Nobody really cared. Big deal. Fuel was cheap. There was a glut of fuel," Henderson, 51, recalled earlier this week. "Fast forward to today. Things change, don't they?"
Avion website: Fuel Economy over 100 miles per gallon - Avion

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	33-high_MPG_car_PAD.embedded.prod_affiliate.39.jpg
Views:	605
Size:	54.0 KB
ID:	1910  
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-11-2010)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 10-11-2008, 01:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
Addicted
 
bbjsw10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Findlay,OH
Posts: 555

bbjsw10 - '91 Geo Metro Xfi
90 day: 51.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts
And they say technology has advanced. Looks super slippery.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 02:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
MechE
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,151

The Miata - '01 Mazda MX-5 Miata
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts
mmm, I've seen that website before... It's a very pretty car... And truly shows it's more classic styling with a very long front hood.

I wonder if they still have the tooling for the body construction....
__________________
Cars have not created a new problem. They merely made more urgent the necessity to solve existing ones.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 01:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 528 Times in 355 Posts
MetroMPG -

Oh yeah, I think I watched the video (here on Ecomodder?!?!?!). I would love it if he won. Talk about vindication! I love his original wheels, but he's gone with Racing Disks on his latest contestant. Great Job!

CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 09:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,549

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.8 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,313
Thanked 6,123 Times in 3,177 Posts
Yeah, I thought there might be another Avion post hanging around here somewhere. I did a quick search and didn't turn anything up before I posted...

Personally, I like those racing discs better.
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 12:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Big Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Steppes of Central Indiana
Posts: 1,313

The Red Baron - '00 Ford F-350 XLT
90 day: 27.99 mpg (US)

Impala Phase Zero - '96 Chevrolet Impala SS
90 day: 21.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 182 Times in 123 Posts
Nice looking car. The engine is probably the 4 cylinder from a 240D. No doubt a manual transmission

I wonder why he took it off the road. Even with cheap fuel 100 MPG is cheaper to drive than 25 MPG. He probably could not insure it.

Unfortunately with its indirect combustion engine it isn't within shouting distance of complying with Tier II, and 1500 lb without carbon fiber, no way it meets US crash safety minimums.
__________________
2000 Ford F-350 SC 4x2 6 Speed Manual
4" Slam
3.08:1 gears and Gear Vendor Overdrive
Rubber Conveyor Belt Air Dam
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 02:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,549

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.8 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,313
Thanked 6,123 Times in 3,177 Posts
He'd do well to stick in the 899 (?) cc diesel from the previous gen smart fortwo if he's going for ultimate mileage. Of course that does nothing for the emissions/safety regs.
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 04:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
econ00b
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: phoenix, az
Posts: 52

green car - '91 honda civic hb dx
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
Nice looking car. The engine is probably the 4 cylinder from a 240D. No doubt a manual transmission

I wonder why he took it off the road. Even with cheap fuel 100 MPG is cheaper to drive than 25 MPG. He probably could not insure it.

Unfortunately with its indirect combustion engine it isn't within shouting distance of complying with Tier II, and 1500 lb without carbon fiber, no way it meets US crash safety minimums.
A car from 84 doesnt have to meet modern safety standards. The emissions standards are also way easier to meet for older vehicles.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 06:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Big Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Steppes of Central Indiana
Posts: 1,313

The Red Baron - '00 Ford F-350 XLT
90 day: 27.99 mpg (US)

Impala Phase Zero - '96 Chevrolet Impala SS
90 day: 21.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 182 Times in 123 Posts
For a singleton prototype from the mid-80s, twenty-first century emissions and safety standards indeed do not apply. But the X-car was for a car that has a chance of being commercially manufactured.

By time this car meets Tier II and crashworthiness standards, I think 100 MPG will be beyond his car. But I wish him luck.
__________________
2000 Ford F-350 SC 4x2 6 Speed Manual
4" Slam
3.08:1 gears and Gear Vendor Overdrive
Rubber Conveyor Belt Air Dam
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 09:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
MechE
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,151

The Miata - '01 Mazda MX-5 Miata
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
Nice looking car. The engine is probably the 4 cylinder from a 240D. No doubt a manual transmission
iono, the 240D I used to drive had fairly terrible mileage for what people think it should get, as a diesel. I pitty those that might find the car at a used car dealer and get sold that it's a diesel and therefore gets high mileage... Later they find mpg figures in the mid 20's (I think best tank was 29ish) while tooling around on the highway at 55mph :/

I'm not saying it's impossible (I'd love to know exactly what's in there), but the 240D wasn't anywhere near the pinnacle of fuel efficiency (the even older Datsun 510 got at least the same FE).

That aside, I loved that 240 (it's what I learned to drive stick on and when a door closed, you knew it) The car is still on the road too, it was sold with over 300k miles on the clock (damn I still wish I had the car)

__________________
Cars have not created a new problem. They merely made more urgent the necessity to solve existing ones.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Car and Driver magazine ecomods a Pinto: MPG up +25% MetroMPG EcoModding Central 34 01-29-2014 07:00 PM
EcoModding for Beginners: Getting great gas mileage. SVOboy EcoModding Central 55 08-20-2012 11:34 PM
How much more MPG would you get lowering your car 2 inches? blackjackel EcoModding Central 26 10-16-2008 03:11 PM
Active grill block idea holypaulie Aerodynamics 17 10-13-2008 09:31 AM
Good take on things (long) Daox General Efficiency Discussion 8 08-30-2008 04:11 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com