Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-27-2021, 11:19 AM   #61 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
Exactly. HOW does one build a tunnel that constantly needs to expand?

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-27-2021, 01:29 PM   #62 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,720
Thanks: 8,151
Thanked 8,934 Times in 7,376 Posts
Don't know.

The route was suggested by the video. The Holodomor was perpetrated by a communist government, like the Uyghurs today. Maybe through Russia to Europe? In any case a gated entrance wold be no worse than surface transport.

My concern is what happens to the endless stream of containers when one gets wedged sideways like the Evergiven.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 11:09 AM   #63 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
Kinda difficult to compare container transport in a tunnel which should have maintenance tunnels to a one shot incident in a place which wasn't built to specific design. The other issue was the forces causing the blocking pushed the ends about 100ft further into the mud. Had to dig it out or have a 10ft tide to refloat. SISI cost cut the project, and they shouldn't allow ships that are wider than the channel they dug.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 02:12 PM   #64 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,720
Thanks: 8,151
Thanked 8,934 Times in 7,376 Posts
Hyperbolic example.

"My concern is what happens to the endless stream of containers when one gets wedged sideways."

The design has four tunnels, two for cargo and two for peeps, one in each direction. If one tunnel is blocked (tectonic shift) the opposing traffic tunnel would have to be cleared AFAIK.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2021, 11:24 AM   #65 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
If they are near each other, I suppose all the tunnels will experience the tectonic shift and become non useable. Real time detection and container stoppage would be the issue. However the Chunnel seems to have avoided all this although it doesn't have a seismic component but the SF bay metro system does.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2021, 03:22 PM   #66 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,720
Thanks: 8,151
Thanked 8,934 Times in 7,376 Posts
Quote:
Real time detection and container stoppage would be the issue.
It's a start. Then, what do you do about it? The Chunnel has a third tube.

When trains derail they have someplace to go. Just spackling over an offset in the tunnels won't cut it.

The powerline interconnect might be the best, only one tunnel needed.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2021, 10:07 PM   #67 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,720
Thanks: 8,151
Thanked 8,934 Times in 7,376 Posts
Less off-topic:



In the main presentation he mentions solid state batteries currently shipping,
Plasma Kinetics and Light Activated Hydrogen
and Where's My Flying Car?. See his prediction for 2096, flying cars turn out to be VTOL Robotaxis.

In the Q&A

Cooling is important for battery vehicles
He likes the Protean wheel motor, especially for VTOLs
Bluetooth sensors eliminate wiring (Ecomodders be aware)
Respect to Aptera and Arcimoto

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com