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Old 11-16-2023, 09:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's roughly impossible to find any US-spec 12-seater van that I could consider fuel-efficient at all. Not even those forward-control Toyota and Mitsubishi vans from the '80s, which have even more seats in other markets, had a 12-seater version there.

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A stretch limo can be made out of about anything, right?

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A stretch limo can be made out of about anything, right?
I have even seen one made out of a Chrysler PT Cruiser. BTW I guess a limo is the only way to legally have side-facing seats in a car in the USA and Canada nowadays...
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I have even seen one made out of a Chrysler PT Cruiser. BTW I guess a limo is the only way to legally have side-facing seats in a car in the USA and Canada nowadays...
The Chevy S10 ZR2 has a sideways jumpseat. It's so cramped back there than it's probably safe to be in a crash, as you're already completely crammed against the rear wall and the front passenger seat.
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Only the stretch cab with the tiny second rear window.
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The Chevy S10 ZR2 has a sideways jumpseat.
Extended-cab trucks used to be a different matter. But anyway, look at newer ones if they're still available there (at least the Ranger has AFAIK the option for the US-spec model, even though the ones made in Argentina for export to my country no longer have it), and you'll see they switched to bench seats, mostly due to European and Australian crash standards requiring forward-facing seats.

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