11-16-2023, 09:01 PM
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It's roughly impossible to find any US-spec 12-seater van that I could consider fuel-efficient at all. Not even those forward-control Toyota and Mitsubishi vans from the '80s, which have even more seats in other markets, had a 12-seater version there.
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11-16-2023, 09:27 PM
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A stretch limo can be made out of about anything, right?
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11-16-2023, 09:30 PM
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A stretch limo can be made out of about anything, right?
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I have even seen one made out of a Chrysler PT Cruiser. BTW I guess a limo is the only way to legally have side-facing seats in a car in the USA and Canada nowadays... |
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11-16-2023, 09:47 PM
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I have even seen one made out of a Chrysler PT Cruiser. BTW I guess a limo is the only way to legally have side-facing seats in a car in the USA and Canada nowadays...
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The Chevy S10 ZR2 has a sideways jumpseat. It's so cramped back there than it's probably safe to be in a crash, as you're already completely crammed against the rear wall and the front passenger seat. |
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11-17-2023, 11:12 AM
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Only the stretch cab with the tiny second rear window.
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11-26-2023, 08:42 PM
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The Chevy S10 ZR2 has a sideways jumpseat.
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Extended-cab trucks used to be a different matter. But anyway, look at newer ones if they're still available there (at least the Ranger has AFAIK the option for the US-spec model, even though the ones made in Argentina for export to my country no longer have it), and you'll see they switched to bench seats, mostly due to European and Australian crash standards requiring forward-facing seats. |
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12-07-2023, 11:43 AM
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Well there was this:
Starting to think that may have been photoshoped...
https://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/express_3500/2019
Show these van only getting "Based on data from 14 vehicles, 627 fuel-ups and 206,629 miles of driving, the 2019 Chevrolet Express 3500 gets a combined Avg MPG of 13.87 with a 0.37 MPG margin of error."
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12-07-2023, 11:51 AM
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Or if your in no hurry, I hope to get my custom full side '93 G20 Chevy van up and running this spring with custom low RPM lugging torque monster 383 with a hard as nails 4L80e and a US gear dual range over drive (Stronger that those wimpy Gear Venders) Which I believe will get close to 25/29MPG and can climb mountains with ease and can tow as well.
The main question is can you do engine work etc?? or have a very friendly low cost shop near by??
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12-07-2023, 12:45 PM
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12-07-2023, 02:00 PM
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Heh, now that the bot post is removed, my "Domo arigato" comment makes no sense.
Another "tell" bots make is necro-posting.
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