Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-12-2016, 10:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 64
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts
your template please ChazInMT

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-12-2016, 10:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
Providing information to you is much the same as talking to a wall.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 12:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 64
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to slipknotsv For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-09-2016)
Old 04-12-2016, 12:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
kach22i's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 4,178
Thanks: 127
Thanked 2,802 Times in 1,968 Posts
Frank, to be fair, even with the "Sticky" threads it can be quite the quagmire finding that exact template one favors.

I like using the frosty green one BimBow colored up personally.

The red scallop line is cool and striking, some may favor that one but I have no idea where the unaltered version is myself.

http://s184.photobucket.com/user/kac...?sort=3&page=1




I have a feeling that I will be looking for the most aerodynamic watermelon this summer.

Perhaps I will make a fiberglass cast of it and have some fun with motorized RC models. I have an old RC Humvee which could benefit from a new shell.
__________________
George
Architect, Artist and Designer of Objects

2012 Infiniti G37X Coupe
1977 Porsche 911s Targa
1998 Chevy S-10 Pick-Up truck
1989 Scat II HP Hovercraft

You cannot sell aerodynamics in a can............

Last edited by kach22i; 04-12-2016 at 12:56 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 02:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
Eco Dabbler
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 45
Thanks: 33
Thanked 33 Times in 19 Posts
Fun to see the bantering here . . . some of you have a fun sense of humor. Thanks for making me smile.

On aerodynamic shapes, size and speed are really important factors. RC cars were mentioned -- but the speed and size make aerodynamics far less important. (Basically if you have no frontal area, the CD becomes moot.) Similar with Solar vehicles -- at least classically -- they travel at much slower speeds than you'd design for in an automobile. Their big thing is trying to make every last watt count -- and from what I've seen, the biggest advantages are in the mechanics and internal electronics, even the cells -- not the 1/2% difference in aerodynamics. (That's not to trivialize it, just to emphasize there are so many important factors.)

As we compare to production vehicles, there are production and economic and all sorts of other considerations that enter in. Even as trivial as customers that want to see out the back window so they lower the trunk even though it's not ideal aerodynamically. Or, a 7 passenger vehicle -- hard to drop the rear roof line when someone needs to sit back there -- and no sense in making a long tail if a customer can't park in the garage. For one-offs, like us, yea, but not for production.

Generally, you can take any smooth foil shape and use it -- stretch it proportionally -- to meet the need. Longer for higher speed. Any smooth, continuous, convex surface will be better than one with interruptions, discontinuity or concavity. So many times I've seen results of weird stuff just works in the isolated situation and logical stuff fail. If you want to be very exact, there is no substitute for wind tunnel testing.

Per ChazInMT, what are you doing? That will make a big difference with respect to shapes and templates.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ByDesign For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-09-2016)
Old 04-12-2016, 05:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,515
Thanks: 8,069
Thanked 8,867 Times in 7,319 Posts
R/C? My vote is for a turtle ....made out of watermelons. Or Gamera.

Quote:
RC cars were mentioned -- but the speed and size make aerodynamics far less important.
In the early-mid 90s I was privileged to work for a computer hard drive/scanner company. Friday afternoons we all went out in the back parking lot and the various departments competed. Tech support was small so we got the receptionist.

My co-worker did the drivetrain and chased cats around his neighborhood. I did the aerodynamics and paint. Juie, who had a hard drive named after her (there's your big hint) was really good at driving from a remote POV.

It was a plastic shell that had the front wheelwells masked for paint but not cut out. The entire back face was cut out. On the back straight, it made so much downforce that it left a trail of dust (the height of the car) it was sucking out of the pavement suspended in the air.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 07:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,246
Thanks: 24,379
Thanked 7,358 Times in 4,758 Posts
best + correct

This 1981 profile,by Buchheim et al.,according to Hucho is the most 'aggressive' profile which will still retain attached flow over the aft-body

The AST-II is the second-most aggressive profile and fits standard rooflines with rapid descending contours.
The AST-I fits more conservative contours.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
All these profiles are just conservative contours which would prevent rapid pressure recovery which could trigger flow separation; based upon empirical wind tunnel testing.
They are intended for home-made,owner-built, individual aft-body streamlining projects.
Anyone with a full-scale wind tunnel or class-leading CFD capabilities will be able to achieve the same results for $2000-$4000/hour,plus materials and labor.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
slipknotsv (04-13-2016), Xist (04-13-2016)
Old 04-13-2016, 06:08 AM   #28 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 64
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts
your statement I expected Mr.aerohead you are the best on the page ecomodder big thanks
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2016, 06:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 64
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts
even if you know something please let me know Mr.aerohead Thanks
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2016, 07:53 AM   #30 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 64
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts
aerohead.............which is......AST-1 really good and best

AST-1............?


AST-1............?


AST-1............?


AST-2.............It's the right template



help me Thanks Aaerohead

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Tags
aerodinamics, best aerodinamic, template





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com