Best e-bike or add on?

[sendler]

I decided to buy a 28mm Mxus hub motor and controller from Kinaye Motorsports since he ships free in the USA but I see he isn't listing the small motor any more. Here is the big 45 mm motor but these are so big that you have to use a single cog in the back.
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MXUS 3000W "Economy" Kit – Kinaye Motorsports
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Mxus is one of the new darlings of manufacturers along with Leafbike since they are using the much finer .35mm laminations in their motors which make them more efficient.
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Electric bike motor | eBike conversion kit | Brushless hub motor - Leaf
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Kinaye also talked about custom packs but I don't see them listed now. 72V would be nice if you want to run 40 mph once in a while but you can also do it on 48V with the right motor.
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Luna Cycle also seems to be pretty stable and would be much better than ebay or Amazon for support.
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Ebike Kit 1000 watt Waterproof Connectors Hub Motor Conversion - Luna Cycle
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Of course ebike.ca is the founding father of kit sales and does the best independant testing. The new NineC motors are nice.
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Motor Simulator - Tools
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Read endless-sphere to learn all about ebikes.
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https://endless-sphere.com/
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[Stubby79]

Goldenmotor.ca <--- with the exchange rate at the moment, it might be worth buying north of the border. I'd be buying from them were I in the market for one. Different models and power levels to choose from under $500 (battery extra)

[user removed]

When you see things like bent spokes in any advertisement it makes me very suspect of any real quality components. Personally I would prefer one piece wheels with tubeless tires, even some of the smallest motorcycle tires would be more confidence inspiring on a 45 mph downhill run.

$700 for the kit (with twisted spokes)
$500 for the battery

That's too close to the $1599 price with the 30 day no questions return (return freight due), especially considering the fact that component built brings in exponentially greater issues, possibly unresolvable and a bunch of expensive junk for your money. Basically you pay return freight for a 30 day test drive assuming the seller is there when you return the product.

I can wait indefinitely. Maybe now that GM is going to import a SUV to the US from China we can see how well that works for the General. Seems to me like a mistake.

My Mirage was built in Thailand, which to me is completely different than China. The quality so far at 13k + miles is as good as anything I have seen, including my 84 CRX built in Japan with a serious wiring harness defect from the factory or my Maxima with a casting flaw in the engine block that allowed coolant to leak out, that I fixed by drilling a hole in the block, tapping it and putting a 5mm bolt in the former hole.

regards
mech