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Old 08-27-2020, 05:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've always liked the way they look, but I'm wondering if there would be a substantial MPG penalty over my Goodrich Assurance tires. My Prius is getting about 45 MPG on the 195/65/R15 Goodriches, and I'm thinking of replacing them with the 205/60/R15 TAs.

Anyone know wha kind of MPG losses I could expect?

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I've always liked the way they look, but I'm wondering if there would be a substantial MPG penalty over my Goodrich Assurance tires. My Prius is getting about 45 MPG on the 195/65/R15 Goodriches, and I'm thinking of replacing them with the 205/60/R15 TAs.

Anyone know what kind of MPG losses I could expect?
Do you have Goodrich Advantage or Goodyear Assurance? And which one, as there are several versions of each.

My guess is that there isn't enough information known about any of those tires to be able to predict the effect. Rolling Resistance data is, for the most part, not available.
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I have a set of 70K mile Goodrich tires on my '97 Escort wagon. When I went from the Goodyear's that were on it I saw a huge drop in FE. Sorry I don't know without looking what model they are but, I'm thinking they are Advantage T/A radials or something along that line. The size is 185/65/14. I've ran a set of them on my '02 Escort and didn't see near as much FE drop but they didn't last but about 40K miles. They wore evenly but wore fast. When I wear the ones out on the '97 I don't think I'll be buying any more Goodrich tires.
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I threw away the plastic Prius wheel covers, because I think the bare Prius wheels are much more attractive.Maybe the best idea is to buy some white tire paint, and paint my own raised white letters.
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Shave the raised letters off an existing LRR tire and add your own lettering with a decal kit, or paint?
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These aren't RWL tires but when I had to replace two tires on my '16 Versa I put two Kumho Solus TA11's on it and have since bought two more for when the other two need replacing in a few thousand miles. Thus far the two that I put on are wearing great and you can look at my fuel log to see they definitely didn't hurt my fuel mileage. They've been on the Versa for a little over 13K miles and I've never felt them slip or lose traction on wet roads. If I recall correctly the TA11's have a treadwear rating of 700, traction A, and temperature B. The Versa wears 185/65-15, they can be bought on eBay for between $61-62 each. When I bought the Versa it only had 10K miles but, had been rebuilt from a previous accident. Two tires were mates and the other two were two different tread designs and one of them was in poor condition. I'm guessing maybe some of the tires were damaged in the accident or the independent dealer switched out two good tires for two not so good. I just put two of the Kumho's on the '02 Escort about 2K miles ago and they seem to be doing great too. Until I bought these I hadn't ran Kumho tires in probably 20 years. I used to run them on an '88 Escort that I used as a daily driver and they always lasted approximately as long as the mileage warranty stated. At the time I was buying a 13" 60K mile version and as I remember was getting a full set for under $150. including mounting and balancing.
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I was right the tires on the '97 Escort wagon and the ones that wore out prematurely on the '02 Escort are/were BF Goodrich Advantage T/A radials. They all may not wear like these did but, I'll never buy anymore of them.
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I've use BFG Advantage T/A Sport tires on 4 cars now - They are a good tire at a good price with better than average life for the class.

Going from Bridgestone Ecopia (185/65R15) to The BFG T/A (205/55/R16) dropped fuel economy 8% on my 2005 Prius.

Going from Bridgestone Ecopia (185/65R15) to BFG T/A (185/65R15) dropped kWh / mile 6.5 % on my 2016 Spark EV.

That said they are a good balance of cost, fuel economy, and life. Good dry traction and excellent wet traction. The lost of fuel economy was worth the improved handling to me.

EDIT: My VW Sportwagen is getting a set as we speak. We punctured a tire last weekend on a forest service road (3rd rock puncture since moving to OR) The stock tires only had 3.5 / 32 of tread left so we are replacing all 4.

I did something a bit different this time and went down a size instead of up. Stock tires on the VW are 225/45R17 and I'm having Costco put on 215/50R17 to get a little more sidewall. The 215 are also XL rated tires so they have a stiffer sidewall.

$433 for the set complete with mount, balance, and disposal of the old tires.


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