BORPower additive?

[freebeard]

"'Knowing in advance' is what the mechanical engineer gets for their $ 100,000....education."

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Lots of buyer's remorse in higher education of late. STEM probably most resistant, but still....

The proven best way to advance technology is to offer a bounty, such as the Xprize. Y'all could escrow a bounty for some falsifiable test, and someone like oilpan4 might try to claim it.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by aerohead

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I was giving you a way to cushion your fall, however, you seem determined in choosing a crash landing. Your call.
'Knowing in advance' is what the mechanical engineer gets for their $ 100,000 undergraduate degree, and whatever else they spend on graduate, doctoral candidate, and post-doc education.

"...I was giving you a way to cushion your fall..."
LOOOL!

Have you tested it?

[freebeard]

[hint]According to https://www.kraken.com/learn/satoshi-to-usd-converter, a ten dollar wager would be about 12,000 Satoshis.[/hint]

[Logic]

Originally Posted by freebeard

[hint]According to https://www.kraken.com/learn/satoshi-to-usd-converter, a ten dollar wager would be about 12,000 Satoshis.[/hint]

Anyone in the the ??? areas got a smokey ol lawn-mover or something for aerohead and/or freebeard?

Perhaps a new topic?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Logic

"...I was giving you a way to cushion your fall..."
LOOOL!

Have you tested it?

Nope. Based on the available evidence, I haven't yet ever seen any future in it.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Logic

Anyone in the the ??? areas got a smokey ol lawn-mover or something for aerohead and/or freebeard?

Perhaps a new topic?

Both would be problematic.
* A lawn mower engine isn't a good analogue for an automotive engine, as evidenced in the ARCO graphite lawn mower / Ryobi gas generator video.
* 'Smoky' automobiles are illegal in Texas, there's an official Texas State program to report them if you encounter one to get them off the roads.
* The Texas Department of Environmental Quality will even financially assist residents owning one, in order to get them into a newer, more efficient, 'cleaner' vehicle.
* Since the time of Argonne's 'Boron' US Patent, cars retired from service in the United States were not done so on account of 'worn out engines.' Vehicles with 'worn out' engines were statistically nonexistent, and the extremely few that did exist, when torn down and examined by the Federal Trade Commission were all found to have suffered either from 'SEVERE' driving by the owners, extra-statistical high-mileage, or improper preventive maintenance ( oil & filter changes ).
* Some, 'so-called' worn-out engines can be returned to near-new performance, simply by using an 'engine flush' first, drained off, then filling with any properly-rated premium motor oil. ( the 196-hour-long ASTM engine tests require a 'flush' after full testing of the industry-standard baseline reference oil, to remove any existing remnants of metal 'plating', prior to the addition of the 'test lubricant ').
Both SLICK50 and MotorSilk 'require' an engine flush prior to installing their engine treatments. SLICK50 includes 'WYNN's Engine Flush, free with each order. MotorSilk requires that you purchase their flush ( if you can find it! )

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Logic

Oh your "Water in the oil makes it less viscous test"

• 'Drinking water makes you less thirsty' is as obvious.
• And no-one has to add the water if they don't want to:
  The combustion process will do that for them over time. (HC+O2=H2O+carbon this n that)
  It just takes a lot longer.

But go ahead and do your thing. I'm sure you'll earn your keep by scaring off a lot of people.

So everyone knows:
A low on compression, difficult to start, old lawnmower is probably cheaper and certainly more abundant than whatever (equipment etc) aerhead has planned.

"Fundamental data" like the huge list oil certification acronyms you like to list.
Your lists have all been in your Art of War: "You mere mortals will NEVER understand this! Be too intimidated to even ask!" style so far.
But readers are supposed to find them, and you ...'helpful' are they..?

Do actually be helpful and explain them:

• What they test for.
• How they test.
• and why each certification is important to the consumer.

Then you also want a % of oil companies that actually have each certification.
As I said one of those Oil Certification Clubs costs 150 000 USD a year, so has very few members, as that cost would have to be passed on to the consumer
I'll post a link as soon as you post your 1st. Or are we to take the word of someone incapable of figuring out how to do so..!?


Don't mistake my being offended by your basically calling me a liar with a sense of urgency My Friend..

I don't care if no-one here tests it.
I know what I know as I did test it for myself. (after reading the published research)
And a good many other people have too.
Every-one else; Their (6 to 10% better fuel economy and engine life etc) loss.

Never heard of it. If so, the annual $ 150,000 would be charged as a legitimate business expense, and written off against income, placing them in a lower income tax bracket.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Logic

Oh ye; 10 out of 10 for ignoring pertinent questions that don't suite you, like:

"...The research institutes who tested in engines got 6 to 10% better fuel economy in the light load situations you last insisted on..." here.

I assume the hope is everyone will simply forget all about this?


That's just one example of you skipping over inconvenient (for you) pertinent points/questions..
Would you like me to go back and list all of them?
Watch this question get the 'Flat Ignore' too everyone!

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1) Dr. Ali Erdemir was hoping for 4% to 5% improvement.
2) A 10% increase in fuel economy would require a 50% reduction in engine friction.
3) According to Dr. Erdemir et al., WLTC, European auto testing in 2000, their 'composite' theoretical engine's parasitic friction represented 11.26% of engine fuel's energy.
4) Two-thirds of that friction would be 'Hydrodynamic', @ 7.506% energy.
5) One-third would be 'Boundary & Mixed-film' friction, @ 3.753% energy.
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6) Since only 'Boundary / Mixed-film' friction is affected by sliding friction, only this 3.753% of energy could be influenced by 'Boron nano-particles' ( Boron-Oxide had already been dropped from the research program ).
7) If the 'Boundary-Mixed-film' friction were completely eliminated, down to a friction coefficient of zero, you could only expect a 3.753% improvement in mpg, as the 7.506% energy of 'viscosity' would still remain.
8) And since 'Mixed-film' friction is essentially 'half' hydrodynamic, the sliding friction improvement from boron would be less than 3.753% mpg.( none of the 'boron' tribologists have ever ventured into this realm of the arena ).
9) Perhaps a 2.814 % mpg increase in the total absence of 'sliding friction.'
10) 'Lower' than 6%- 10%.
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11) The SAE shows automotive engine maximum efficiency, minimum BSFC, at 76.4-mph.
- engine friction=5.3% fuel's energy
- sliding friction = less than 1.776% fuel energy
- at friction coefficient=zero, mpg gain= 0.35%.
- at 100-mph, a 0.78% mpg gain.
for Argonne-era 'worn-out' cars
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12) Erdemir's SAE 15W-40 motor oil of Mu= 0.11, improved to Mu=0.09 with his 1% ( by weight ) nano-boric acid ( an 18.2% friction reduction ), good for a 3.64% mpg improvement ( compared to 6% - 10% )
13) RedLine's 40W-40 motor oil is Mu=0.0453
14) SAE 30W is Mu=0.054 @ 5,000-rpm ( RedLine Synthetic Oil Corporation )
15) Ford Motor Company's SAE 5W-30 with MoDTC is Mu=0.067