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Old 04-02-2018, 04:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I started avoiding soy when the GMO varieties took the market. Not regretting it at this point.
Are you vegetarian, vegan or something like that? But anyway, nowadays most of the grain crops are transgenic anyway, not just soy and corn.

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Old 04-02-2018, 04:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You don't have to be a [tasty, delicious] vegan to distrust Monsanto.
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You don't have to be a [tasty, delicious] vegan to distrust Monsanto.
You taste vegans?

Actually, I do not want to know.
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You get that from 'distrust Monsanto'? Thank you for sharing, I guess?

I wuz just trying to find common ground with jamesqf, to see if I could draw out whether it's even possible to parse vegans based on intent. It an interesting philosophical question.
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vegan is an ideologically driven diet
vegetarian is a health driven diet

however some people require animal protein to stay healthy

and meat is delicious and allows people to eat grass and bush and bugs
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Raising meat and dairy are excellent options for marginal land, with one caveat; beneficial use requires sound pasture management. Trying to grow crops on marginal land is often very destructive.

Conversion of tropical forests into grazing land (or plantation/mono agriculture) is problematic. Those areas are far more productive using multi-story agriculture and/or swidden agriculture.

Eating a balanced diet that includes meat, eggs and dairy is better for the environment.
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James, you are just voicing your opinion, right? You are not trying to make this happen?
No, I'm not Brazilian, so I doubt I'd have much impact there :-)

Nor have I personally introduced any political vegans to grizzly bears. For one thing, we don't have grizzly bears hereabouts, only the smaller black bears.
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Have you considered going where there are grizzlies and putting out vegan bait?
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vegan is an ideologically driven diet
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There are people who follow a vegan or vegetarian diet for their own reasons, and I have no problem with that. Then there are those, like this bunch https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.67ab2e2ecc62 who try to force other people to follow those diets, and those I do have a problem with.
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Have you considered going where there are grizzlies and putting out vegan bait?
Humm... What do you suppose would work as vegan bait? Most of the things I can think of - tofu, for instance - aren't really all that selective.

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