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Old 06-03-2008, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Budget windtunnel $ 345-1rst 2hrs

As much as all of us like tinkering with our cars aerodynamics, I thought that some of you guys might like to know about this place :

http://www.a2wt.com/index.html

The fellow that runs the place worked for GM on the aerodynamics of the EV1, so he knows what he is talking about.

By comparison, booking time in a conventional wind tunnel can take almost a year and cost over $2,000.00 per hour. The A2 charges 345 bucks for the first two hours. That's like less than 175 bucks an hour !!

If some of you guys do go, please be a sport and share your findings, as well as any video

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Old 06-03-2008, 11:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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very cool.. however to spendy for me .. I'll wait for mother nature to give me a windy day and break ou tthe tufts and smoke..lol

However wouldn't a mini wind tunnel be pretty easy to construct and use models for some testing be far cheaper and decently accurate for us "tinkerers".. Thats what the write brothers did for there airplane design.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Very cool. I love this pic here...

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Interesting - good find.

I know some of the folks over at http://forums.hybridz.org/ chipped in to do some aero testing on their steeds. Not sure which facility they used, though.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Under the cars tab, I'm really curious as to why they would wind tunnel test what appears to be a Model A ford modified for optimum drag
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Great find.
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Great find indeed! We should totally get together some people and money to do some testing,

If anyone is interested in organizing something like that, people just start up a thread!
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very cool.. however to spendy for me .. I'll wait for mother nature to give me a windy day and break ou tthe tufts and smoke..lol

However wouldn't a mini wind tunnel be pretty easy to construct and use models for some testing be far cheaper and decently accurate for us "tinkerers".. Thats what the write brothers did for there airplane design.
For a full-size car,drag coefficients become stable at about 20-mph,so your tuft-testing at 20 or above would give you an accurate representation of your car's aero.In wind tunnels,they like to keep the percent blockage( the ratio of the frontal area of the vehicle,to the area of the test section of the tunnel)to about 4-percent.For a NASCAR at around 22 square-feet of area,you'd need a tunnel with a test section of 550-square-feet .When you start to get into models you run into scaling factors,as Reynolds numbers have to do with size as a function of velocity.So lets say your going on the cheap,and you're gonna target the 20-mph minimum for full-scale.With models,you'd have to have tunnel velocities at the following relationships to maintain appropriate Reynold's numbers and meaningful results :

1/2-scale = 40-mph

---------------------- 1/4-scale = 80-mph

-------------------1/8-scale = 160-mph

-------------------------1/16-scale = 320-mph

---------------and so on.

I discovered that I could duct-tape cardboard to the vehicle and test it in full-scale cheaper and quicker than by building models.It's a choice everyone will have to sort out for themselves.I have a small a small tunnel for public demonstrations and its dramatic what it can reveal to people who've never seen such a thing,however it does nothing really meaningful as a development tool. Just my two-cents.
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Great link! Could be a great tool for low-buck tuners.Thanks for that!
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Awww its all the way over in NC. Cool find though

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