Build back better proposes 6 billion to electrify post office fleet 70%

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Unsolicited mail should be charged double, which would cut down on a lot of the junk.

I get a letter every other day from my mortgage lender asking me to refi. Still don't know why companies haven't discovered email communication.

Pretty much because if you aren't in my list of contacts, your communication gets sent to the trash bin. After I have the deed of trust, communication ceases. I have no such filters on my mailbox, darn.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

Hey Hersbird: what is the possibility the PO would make better money getting rid of junk mails losing bulk rates.

I ask because the wife is pre 65 & gets a mailbox full of medicare insurance crud everyday now. Almost gives my carrier a hernia.

Well that situation is actually a big money maker. Even at say .20 a letter and they are probably more, 13 of them makes the same revenue as a 30 pound bag of cat foot from Amazon. But the costs are less on 13 letters to one house than one big package that has to be walked to the door. I guarantee the carrier has no problem with you mom but is pissed at the guy next door ordering 2 things from Amazon a week.

[Hersbird]

I will say political mail is a racket, they pay pennies and get treated better than Priority or Express. Charge those guys full $.58 each as they have more money than they know what to do with.

[67-ls1]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

Hey Hersbird: what is the possibility the PO would make better money getting rid of junk mails losing bulk rates.

I ask because the wife is pre 65 & gets a mailbox full of medicare insurance crud everyday now. Almost gives my carrier a hernia.

Maybe it’s because I’m in the burbs but I rarely get packages through the USPS. My Amazon packages are delivered by Amazon trucks 99% of the time.
But I can see how in more rural areas it’s less expensive for Amazon to pay the USPS rather than a driver. Bottom line, I believe, is the USPS needs to cut back on the discounts they offer Amazon/UPS/FedEx.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I will say political mail is a racket, they pay pennies and get treated better than Priority or Express. Charge those guys full $.58 each as they have more money than they know what to do with.

Political mail is a PITA, and nowadays it's mostly pointless at all.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

A few packages here and there no big deal. Say 20 over 700 stops. That's what it used to be. Now it's 150 every 700 stops on a light day and 300+ on a heavy day. UPS drivers don't delivery that many on a daily basis doing only packages in an 8 hour shift. So those days it's more like you have a little mail to deliver with the packages and on a normal day it's 40% packages filling your time. Keep in mind I can do literally 50 letters and maybe 10 stops for just letters as fast as one package. If the package needs a signature double or triple that time.

How do you fit 300 packages in that tiny USPS truck? When I was driving for UPS I had a residential route with about 130 to 150 stops and 300 - 400 packages. My full size UPS truck would be filled including the center aisle.

[Piotrsko]

Ups has bigger HEAVIER boxes, there are size limits for USPS

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

Ups has bigger HEAVIER boxes, there are size limits for USPS

USPS size limit is 130 inches and 70 lbs.

UPS size limit is 165 inches and 150 lbs.

The vast majority of my packages were not large or heavy - easily within the UPS limits. An over 70 package was a rarity for me on a residential route.

[oil pan 4]

I heard the last one of those little white postal vans rolled off the assembly line in the early 1990s.
If the post office needs tax payer money every 30 years or so for a new fleet vehicle then that's a great use of tax payer money, they make it last, everyone benefits, no special interest groups or identity politics.

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by JSH

USPS size limit is 130 inches and 70 lbs.

UPS size limit is 165 inches and 150 lbs.

The vast majority of my packages were not large or heavy - easily within the UPS limits. An over 70 package was a rarity for me on a residential route.

Like I said, bigger and heavier. We hit the limits all the time at every warehouse I ever worked. At jobcorps, the Staples load was usually one full residential truck. Why they didn't use a trailer was beyond me.

Same warehouse, the mail package deliveries came in a post office truck