C-Max aero mod success questions.......

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Otto

Also may redo the whole face of the car, which (I regret to say) too much resembles a brick. Anybody here do Photoshop? If so, can you paste a Porsche Carrera GT face onto a 944 Turbo?

Sounds like you want a Porsche 968.

Porsche 968 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


944 Porsche White | all porsche images


Porsche Carrera GT | Specialist Cars of Malton - Independent Porsche Sales

[Recumpence]

Here is an upper grille block I made today. I have about 45 minutes in it so far.

I have it mounted with a few screws for testing purposes. I will finish mounting it tomorrow.

I used a piece of 3/4 inch 6061 aluminum box tube bent to the shape of the nose of the hood as a support behind the grille to hold the proper shape since there is nothing at the top edge to mount the grille to. Otherwise it would try to flex flat.

The nose finally has that fully rounded look to it.

I will post FE numbers when I have them.

Matt

[UltArc]

Good looking modifications.

[vskid3]

Very nice numbers for a C-Max. I'm curious to see what you would get in a Prius, with them being rated for better mileage. I'm scared you might beat me.

[Recumpence]

I am very good at knowing exactly how to read this car and how it will react to various road conditions, traffic, wind, etc.

I know the C-Max is rated at lower MPG than the Prius. But, it is different in many ways that seem to compliment my driving style, personal bias, and my type of usage. For example, the car will stay in EV mode all the way up to 85mph. It will charge while accelerating. With such a large engine, this is beneficial. I have driven it using acceleration assist, and with acceleration regen and my FE is far better using accelerating regen, then maximizing EV distance using the added AH I gained by regenning under acceleration.

The vast majority of my driving sees 1/3 of the miles with engine running, and 2/3 EV only. In fact, many of my 10 to 20 mile trips show an indicated 25% engine miles and 75% EV only miles.

I believe Ford has their system (at least in this regard) very well figured out.

In an indicated 40,900 miles, I have seen 24,000 EV only miles (oh, and over 1,000 braking regen miles).

Matt

[Otto]

Whip out a black Sharpie pen or indelible Magic Marker, color the screw heads black, and nobody will even notice you have the grill block panels. You did well on the installation.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Recumpence

Here is an upper grille block I made today. I have about 45 minutes in it so far.

Matt, I didn't mean to hi-jack the thread with the P-car images, I thought you were through with the tinkering.

Your upper grille block is as nice as the other block installations.

[Recumpence]

No worries. I am fine with people posting whatever they want.

Oh, I have to address the comment made on the last page about fog light position and air acceleration at that point. That was my assumption too. That was one point of my questions earlier in this thread that the fog lights and lower grille are in that area and both are there contributing to the turbulence of each other.

Matt

[Susanne]

Originally Posted by Recumpence

Oh, I hate to throw this into the equation, but, Gas Pods (vortex generators) seem to make a difference on the C-Max. I know there is a huge controversy regarding them. But, I have run them and removed them and there apears to be a 1mpg improvement with them at highway speed.
Matt

Why would use this language that you are intimidated by a few naysayers who never tried GasPods. Almost everyone who has tried GasPods and reported back to us has seen the same or better fuel savings than you. Please, have the strength to state the truth and not fall victim to a few who get a kick out of exercising power and control over speaking louder than their intelligence.

Oh... and GasPods are not vortex generators. They are a new and improved technology.

[Recumpence]

First off, the reason I am cautious about mentioning their use is because of the frequent arguments revolving around them. I do not want to start a pissing match over their use in my thread.

Second, I have seen very little gain with them, certainly less than you claim on your site. Their appears to be a slight gain (possibly up to 1mpg at most).

You need to be careful about using such rude language in your posts. Considering the fact that you are the one marketing these, you need to be very careful how you come across when you post such statements on someone else's thread.

Matt