Cadillac Escalade Hybrid! - Page 3 - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum

EcoMurph · 10-17-2008, 09:55 PM

The Escalade is the Diet Coke of the automotive world... The American Eco-Friendly Diet: Three large slices of pizza, onion rings, french fries, chicken wings and an Escalade, please. Go green!

Why not put all those resources to work trying to design a hybrid that would combine the most efficient hybrid engine wth the most efficient use of cargo space, instead of chucking an electric motor in a tank?

FunkSkunk · 10-18-2008, 12:03 PM

Come on guys, if it makes the suburban rich hockey mom feel better about driving that behemoth to the mall then it's a great idea!

Matt Herring · 10-18-2008, 12:24 PM

Anyone that would pay $75,000k to get 20 mpg in a "hybrid" can have it! Buy two while you're at it!

I posted a thread about the Escalade Hybrid last week...link here

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post66681

The first time I saw it was in an ad in Sports Illustrated in early October. I still have the issue and will post what the ad said...hypocracy!

I liken the Hybrid Escalade to McDonald's putting fat-free cheese on their Big Macs! It might make a difference but at what cost?

FunkSkunk · 10-18-2008, 12:44 PM

There's my hockey mom!

FunkSkunk · 10-18-2008, 12:47 PM

This is the only way an escalade could get good gas mileage -->
2007 GM™ Luxury Cadillac Ecalade Golf Car / NEV

slurp812 · 10-18-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennelson

I just saw a TV ad for the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid!!!!

Is this total old news that I haven't heard about?

Is an Escalade Hybrid an Oxymoron, or a great way for people who are going to drive those anyways to save gas?

I would bet a Civic LX would still get close to double MPG...

Matt Herring · 10-18-2008, 01:41 PM

heres what the ad for the escalade hybrid says in sports illustrated...

"provides an epa estimated 20 mpg in the city. more than a mini cooper s convertible with automatic transmission. so much for the size theory. apparently it is possible to seat more than 4 adults luxuriously and still be competitive on fuel efficiency."

the ad then compares the ecalade hybrids 20 mpg to the mini cooper, mercedes benz c class, bmw x3 and volvo xc90 saying it gets better mpg than all of them.

nice fat 2 page full color ad for their nice fat hybrid

slurp812 · 10-18-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Herring

heres what the ad for the escalade hybrid says in sports illustrated...

"provides an epa estimated 20 mpg in the city. more than a mini cooper s convertible with automatic transmission. so much for the size theory. apparently it is possible to seat more than 4 adults luxuriously and still be competitive on fuel efficiency."

the ad then compares the ecalade hybrids 20 mpg to the mini cooper, mercedes benz c class, bmw x3 and volvo xc90 saying it gets better mpg than all of them.

nice fat 2 page full color ad for their nice fat hybrid

Seats more than 4, so it would make a good bus. 95% of my miles driven are alone, I really don't need a bus. Yes, its better than a non-hybrid and there are people who use them like some with lots of kids, etc.

Big Dave · 10-18-2008, 07:38 PM

Like I said in another thread, the vast preponderance of people don't want a little car unless parking is an issue. They want a fuel efficient car that can do a lot of their missions. Usually "little" and "fuel efficient" go together but not always. "Little" and "multi-mission" rarely go together.

Yeah, most people drive their big vehicle alone or without a load of freight. I am much like that. Normally I merely haul my fat butt. Today I brought all the material needed for a fairly good sized project. If I had a Prius I'd need ten or twelve trips and I'd still have some 4x8s. Renting a truck on Saturdays is not much of an option, and a $200 rental for one trip sticks in my craw.

Not all trips are single commuters and cars are too expensive to hack a special-purpose car.

Since the EPA foreclosed the diesel hybrid is the only choice left.

metromizer · 10-20-2008, 05:22 PM

Will GM partner with Countrywide to help finance these?

not trying to be argumentative, but our opinions are based on our life experiences, yes?

I wish I had a dollar for every soccer mom and 1-2 kids I've seen driving an Escalade the last five years... Where I lived, at least for me, those luxury SUV's epiomized the calm before the storm.

It was a most interesting phenomenon I watched unfold in the SF Bay Area suburbs. Younger families with upper-middle class incomes, my neighbors, would buy a house out in the burbs. Maybe sold a house in silicon valley and moved out here with enough cash to put a sizable down payment, and buy a couple of new cars at the same time. The house would appreciate 15% or more per year. They acted as though this was a given... borrowing against that equity through re-fi avery couple years and buy toys like a new ski boat, an Escalade and boob job for stay at home mom, a new lifted 4x4 Diesel and Harley for dad. I couldn't understand it. Today those same neighbors of mine are selling off the toys, trading in the SUV 9the used car lots are full of SUV lease returns) Dad is looking for work (construction is all but stopped, lending and real estate sales are all but non-existent) Many, many foreclosures on everystreet.

I think GM is using this as a stop-gap until they can re-tool, they need a different customer, product, or both IMO