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Old 05-20-2021, 03:47 AM   #41 (permalink)
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When gas prices had been hopelessly stuck above $3.50 a gallon for years during the last biden administration it only appeared to slow large vehicle sales and made them even more of a status symbol.
Then when gas prices dropped in 2018 fuel efficient vehicle sales cratered, that was when we got the nissan leaf and Hyundai hybrid. Leaf prices were at an all time low and the dealer was trying to off load Hyundai hybrids like they were stolen goods.
That's less than 1€/L, wich is still rather cheap.

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Old 05-20-2021, 05:10 AM   #42 (permalink)
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And we are going to keep it that way.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:28 AM   #43 (permalink)
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And we are going to keep it that way.
So you can keep getting 20MPG and have an arms race in traffic instead of doing the civilized thing and getting dangerous drivers off the roads.
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In case you didn't know, germany also has 16 states.
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It was an Aygo.
I have never seen one in my country, only some Chinese copies belonging to Uruguayan tourists.


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Also torque doesn't matter, torque curve shape, power and gearing do.
In my country, the obsession with horsepower within the 1.0L displacement class has led to both power and torque curve shapes not being so great, plus most of the entry-level engines here still resorted to SOHC 2-valve heads until recently and VVT was not so common for economy cars. It's been changing, not as fast as it could be supposed to.

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