Cell phone purchase

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by sgtlethargic

I don't necessarily disagree. A green(er) and more just company would be better than supposedly sending a portion of profits to good causes.

How so?

I disagree. We need to change several (many, most?) ways we do things (paradigm shifts). We can't continue living like there are no or just minor consequences to people and the planet and the other inhabitants.

I don't necessarily disagree either, but I'm just trying to imagine how a paradigm shift occurs.

There's some small percent of people willing to sacrifice purely out of principle. Usually anything that is adopted by the larger population is because some personal benefit is derived. In my mind, regulation tends to be required in instances where there is no personal benefit. Catalytic converters come to mind here. If we had no mandates, would we even have catalytic converters in cars?

Regarding the oil/wealth link, they are currently inextricably linked. It makes sense because wealth is buying power, and most everything requires oil inputs.

[freebeard]

sgtlethargic — I would go there and advocate for Fuller's Design Science Revolution.

R. Buckminster Fuller coined the term design science revolution to describe his proposed scientific and socio-economic revolution accomplished by shifting from "weaponry to livingry"[1] through the application of what he called comprehensive anticipatory design science....

Fuller advocated the design science revolution as an alternative to politics, seeking to optimize planetary resources for the benefit of 100% of humanity. He coined the term synergetics to explain how design science could create rich returns, such as how "energy income" could be harvested from the environment. His main premise was that nature's existing and omnipotent order must be allowed to guide human designs, if they are to survive and thrive as a species. He wrote that humanity was approaching its critical test as a species, in which it would be determined whether or not man was a mistake of nature, or its greatest accomplishment. This sense of urgency for the design science revolution was reflected in numerous writings:

His 'road to roadless, wired to wireless' anticipated cell phones.

So — What do you think about Linux phones?

[sgtlethargic]

There are several open threads with overtly political commentary on this subforum. One was recently closed, and several of my threads were deleted. I just deleted my reply to #19, which was #20.

Draw your own conclusions and/or guess what mine are- not here, though.

[freebeard]

You seem to do Okay in Aerodynamics.