Clean Disruption

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The Origins and Diffusion of Patrism in Saharasia, c.4000 BCE: Evidence for a Worldwide, Climate-Linked Geographical Pattern in Human Behavior*
by James DeMeo, Ph.D.**

Prior to Saharasia there wasn't any war.

I don't buy it. If there were no war, and pro-social matriarchy was the norm, then population would be exploding.

War has existed since the first 2 males encountered each other.

Native American tribes would war against other tribes. It's human behavior to form tribes and compete against other tribes. I don't find it surprising that a man shoots other men playing baseball because of a difference in politics, or that a man runs through a crowd of people with his car. I'm surprised it doesn't happen much more often, considering how easily we are given in to emotion.

War is not only brought about by desperation, but because that's what we do. The popularity of violent video games is evidence of the appeal to be violent.

...and when I asked my grandfather if he enjoyed prosecution or defense more, he replied "it's a lot more fun to tear down your opponent's case than to build your own".

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Technology will still be disruptive, even if it doesn't directly change the way you choose to do things.

I think you're missing the point I was trying to make. It's not that the self-driving car on demand wouldn't work for a certain segment of the population (at least once the bugs are worked out); it's that it'd be an incremental change, not a disruptive one. To the user, it's no different than calling a cab. Maybe a bit cheaper or quicker, maybe causing unemployment among former cab drivers, but it doesn't fundamentally change things.

In internet terms it's the difference between having an internet (disruptive), and doubling my speed while cutting my monthly bill in half: doesn't really change things, just saves me a few bucks.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by JockoT

And why wouldn't they have off road EV's in an area like that? If the Nissan Leaf can take part in the Mongol Rally, why not.

There's no reason there couldn't be 4WD/offroad EVs. The problem is that if someone calls for one from a remote location (assuming they can even get a cell signal), it is likely to take hours to get there.

The other problem is the same as I see with many acquaintances who buy fancy 4WD pickups and SUVs, yet never drive them off pavement (or carry significant loads) because they're afraid of scratching the paint. (Of course that's not everyone: some friends have a neighbor who drives his Tesla down the steep dirt road to their place, fords a stream, then climbs another steep bit of dirt to his cabin.)

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I don't buy it. If there were no war, and pro-social matriarchy was the norm, then population would be exploding.

War has existed since the first 2 males encountered each other.

Cain and Able?

Most people reject Saharasia because it validates Wilhelm Reich. He who's books were burnt (six tons!) and he died in prison.

If tribal life were 'red in tooth and claw' how did city-states arise in the first place? There would have to have been an era when cooperation was the norm. The theory is that for 6000 years radiating waves of misery have diffused through the cultures of the world. The final blow was the steamship and the final population were in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trobriand_Islands

[sendler]

Loan your Tesla model 3 out for ride sharing autonomously whenever you aren't using it to make money without even being there.
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Tesla Model 3: do design features point to self-driving car-sharing service?
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[JockoT]

I wouldn't, but there again, I wouldn't rent my house out on AirBnB either.

[redpoint5]

I loan my car out for free all the time. Wouldn't mind making a profit.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

War has existed since the first 2 males encountered each other.

Oh, long before that. Chimpanzees have wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

Originally Posted by sendler

Loan your Tesla model 3 out for ride sharing autonomously whenever you aren't using it to make money without even being there.

Would you realistically be able to charge enough to recoup the depreciation? Not to mention the risk of someone trashing the rich guy's Tesla.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Would you realistically be able to charge enough to recoup the depreciation? Not to mention the risk of someone trashing the rich guy's Tesla.

Uber and Lyft drivers seem to think they are making money. And now you don't even have to be there. Just send your car all by itself.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by sendler

Uber and Lyft drivers seem to think they are making money. And now you don't even have to be there. Just send your car all by itself.

They are probably driving cars that are a lot cheaper than a Tesla :-)

And not being there means you have no control over what happens to the car in your absence.