Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Introductions
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-09-2009, 06:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 16
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Commutacar

can someone tell me where on my Commmutacar car do I find the serial number ? It is a 1980, and I can't find the serial# which I need to know as there are modifications listed for cars below or after certain numbers. Can a Comutacar owner please help on this one...? thanks.
Also, can someone tell me how to measure the amount of charge/time/miles left in my batteries whilst driving? I'm using 4 X 12v batteries to get car running before I invest in the proper 6V ones. The original 'battery meter used 18v ( I can't figure out why?) I can't make 18v out of the 12's, so don't know how to measure how much range from the 12's?
They are C&D UPS 12v gell cells, and not intended to be deep cycled. Does anyone know if I can deep-cycle them? If so, how many cycles could I expect?
thanks again,
Electrique

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 06-09-2009, 11:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ryland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903

honda cb125 - '74 Honda CB 125 S1
90 day: 79.71 mpg (US)

green wedge - '81 Commuter Vehicles Inc. Commuti-Car

Blue VX - '93 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 867
Thanked 434 Times in 354 Posts
vin number is on the dash and on the frame by the right rear wheel, on the square tubing.
I have a paktrakr gauge on my commuta-car and it will give me a state of charge in percentage, along with battery pack voltage and voltage of each battery on it's own because your mileage will vary and over discharging your batteries will shorten their life and that can only be figured by battery voltage.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 11:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Daox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203

CM400E - '81 Honda CM400E
90 day: 51.49 mpg (US)

Daox's Grey Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
Team Toyota
90 day: 49.53 mpg (US)

Daox's Insight - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 64.33 mpg (US)

Swarthy - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage DE
Mitsubishi
90 day: 56.69 mpg (US)

Daox's Volt - '13 Chevrolet Volt
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,587 Times in 1,554 Posts
Welcome to the site. Do you have any pictures of your car?
__________________
Current project: A better alternator delete
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 12:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,532

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,978 Times in 3,613 Posts
Where are you in Canada? I've only seen one CitiCar/ComutaCar before - maybe 20 years ago in Ottawa.

I'm not sure about gel cells, but the rule of thumb I follow for flooded lead acid batteries is you should never draw any individual battery down below 1.75 volts per cell (5.25 volts per 6 volt battery, or 10.5 volts per 12v battery).

Below that voltage you risk permanent battery damage (chance of cell reversal).

When voltage can't be held above this value under load (regular use), the battery is effectively at 100% depth of discharge. So you can estimate your range based on this info.

Ryland is right though: a battery pack monitor is best.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 16
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryland View Post
vin number is on the dash and on the frame by the right rear wheel, on the square tubing.
I have a paktrakr gauge on my commuta-car and it will give me a state of charge in percentage, along with battery pack voltage and voltage of each battery on it's own because your mileage will vary and over discharging your batteries will shorten their life and that can only be figured by battery voltage.
wow! you know your stuff...thanks very much, I'll bring you up to date once I get things going. the gel cells are just a stop gap power source, until I know everything works. The car now runs but won't stop! ( no brakes!) I hope they just need bleeding? Can the brake master reservoir be accessed through the L/H headlight hole?
Do you still recommend using the Trojan 6v cells...it's a $2000 investment for me, so I'd appreciate any comments on that? I have to go with batteries available locally, as any 'deals' are no longer deals when shipping and duty is paid, so unfortunately, nothing out of the US.
I'm in Victoria British Columbia, Canada
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2009, 11:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ryland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903

honda cb125 - '74 Honda CB 125 S1
90 day: 79.71 mpg (US)

green wedge - '81 Commuter Vehicles Inc. Commuti-Car

Blue VX - '93 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 867
Thanked 434 Times in 354 Posts
master cylinder is gotten to by the drivers side feet, but get to it from the passenger side with some twisting, if you have to replace it, they used a master cylinder from the AMC cars and jeeps before GM bought it out, cost should be around $45 for the part and take an hour to replace, wheel cylinders are industrial vehicle brakes from wear house trucks, kind of like golf cart brakes but heavier.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mark's CommutaCar bennelson Fossil Fuel Free 10 04-19-2009 09:07 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com