Converting vehicles to moderate stay campers?

[Isaac Zackary]

Originally Posted by hayden55

What does everyone in here use for cheap hot spots and cheap smart phones? Anybody using freedom pop? 6$/mo for 1gb data call and text isn't half bad.

I've never owned a new smartphone. Usually phones other people don't want. Actually I wouldn't mind going back to a basic phone.

I got Time Warner Cable's $14.99 ELP internet. But that has gone up to $19.00 and now to $24.00. I've thought about dumping that and going with no internet. There isn't any other internet that's cheaper that's offered out here. Actually even ELP isn't offered anymore. If I drop it I won't ever be able to get it back.

I'll look up Freedom Pop and see what that is since I've never heard of it. But it's probably not available out here.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by hayden55

Yeah its one of those millennial vs baby boomer things. lol

And using the Enemy’s terms digs your hole even deeper. There is no “generation gap” except for those too blind to see.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zackary

I've never owned a new smartphone. Usually phones other people don't want. Actually I wouldn't mind going back to a basic phone.

I got Time Warner Cable's $14.99 ELP internet. But that has gone up to $19.00 and now to $24.00. I've thought about dumping that and going with no internet. There isn't any other internet that's cheaper that's offered out here. Actually even ELP isn't offered anymore. If I drop it I won't ever be able to get it back.

I'll look up Freedom Pop and see what that is since I've never heard of it. But it's probably not available out here.

This is a regular discussion for truck drivers, Rv’ers and others. Have a look at those forums.

[hayden55]

Originally Posted by slowmover

And using the Enemy’s terms digs your hole even deeper. There is no “generation gap” except for those too blind to see.

Not an enemy term. Noting the differences between generations. My parents hate smartphones, social media, and prefer local tv. I never really watched tv and grew up with the internet and cell phones youtube social media...
Gen Z is a lot more connected to the internet whereas my baby boomer parents prefer to be disconnected. Not as a whole but on the average.
Just noting the things that might not be problems for one, might be more inconvenient for others.
I agree there is not really a gap, just differences in how we do things like entertainment or communications.
Looking at my join date I joined this forum when I was 13. Sure has taught me a lot of valuable information.

[slowmover]

“Do things different”. Yes, you took their bait.

[Isaac Zackary]

Originally Posted by slowmover

“Do things different”. Yes, you took their bait.

Of course there's a generation gap. The statistics prove it. Baby boomers could take one man working to buy a house and provide for a stay-at-home wife and half a dozen children.

Millennials take both husband and wife (or two husbands or whatever) working full time, sometimes two jobs, probably never being able to afford a home, therefore renting for the rest of their lives, with the hope to support up to two children.

My dad won't carry or use a cellphone, not even a basic one. But he rebuilt the engine in his Toyota Tacoma just a couple years ago.

[slowmover]

No, son, there aren’t “generations”. All men have things in common. This is why a democracy is possible.

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[Isaac Zackary]

Originally Posted by slowmover

No, son, there aren’t “generations”. All men have things in common. This is why a democracy is possible.

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Let's not get involved in politics right now.

Getting back on topic, how do I convert my Avalon into a camper?

[JSH]

Originally Posted by hayden55

I agree with you there. Goal is to get a white van that doesn't look to beat, and insulate it heavily with poly foam.
For the most part the mechanical work should be cheap. Like 100$ junk yard rear axle, 10$ electric fan etc... lol

I've converted my Astro Van to a campervan. (I'm working on my 3rd configuration right now). A huge amount of time was spent shaping everything to the contours of the van. Nothing is a straight line. After doing a van I'm looking at a box truck for our next campervan. I'm looking forward to working with a simple rectangle.

Also box trucks are pretty invisible if you are looking to stealth camp. At least here on the west cost van living is pretty popular so cops are on the lookout for van campers. No one will look twice at a box truck parked in an industrial area.

[Isaac Zackary]