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Old 05-10-2021, 02:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Would be funny to see gasoiline at 5€/L here and 10-15$/gallon in the US for a while.
I don't realy need to drive much as I work from home, ride my bike most of the time and my motorcycle needs some 2L/100 km.

Would be funny to see what happens to all these trucks/SUVs over in the US
It would only affect the southeast. We still have gas, just have to truck it, opposed to pumping it in a pipeline. the cost is much greater trucking it.

Trivia, the pipe line passes within a mile of house.

The pipe line pumps both diesel and gas. when they switch from one to another, the fuels mix and you get what is called mixed fuel. There is a gas turbine power station near me that uses the fuel to make electrical power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Georgia_Cogen

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Old 05-10-2021, 07:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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All that talk regarding oversized vehicles remind me the day I stopped at a gas station nearby to get me some coffee and a snack for my dog, then I started to talk with a guy who worked at the convenience store of that gas station about how even cars classified here as a compact became oversized somehow. The guy pointed out a majority of the vehicles he would see on a daily basis often carried only the driver and no more than one passenger. On a sidenote, the SUV craze is also quite strong in my country, even though sometimes a small car may perform better on mild off-road conditions than an overwhelming majority of the new SUVs.


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Would be funny to see what happens to all these trucks/SUVs over in the US
Many would be quite sad to find out I'm not Mexican while I try to dissuade them from asking me to help them smuggle non-certified Diesel engines for them to swap into their rides
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Old 05-11-2021, 08:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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A single occupant absolutely needs a 2 ton vehicle to go to work.
Yeah, but maybe he gave his children before a lift to school, and need a bigger car for occasional traveling, transports or activities on the weekend?
So, a second car which is "socialy right" to drive alone? Maybe a third one?

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On a sidenote, the SUV craze is also quite strong in my country, even though sometimes a small car may perform better on mild off-road conditions than an overwhelming majority of the new SUVs.
Well people want these cars, I also own something like a "SUV" (38 MPG) which would be considered small by US standards.

But what type of cars would people actually need if there would be only one option?

Something of the size of an Corola, Jetta etc. - Station Wagon option.
Front wheel Drive,
a little longer wheelbase and the ability to move the backseats to be actually used by 4 Adults.
Optimum would be an adaptable suspension, and torque on demand all wheel drive.
Economic Engine with 6 gear stickshift or a light 8-Speed Automatic.

Versatile enough to be used for almost all demands, and able to get a real good mileage of 45mpg and better. The technology exists.

Pretty Close to it might be a design like the lada vesta, or new Renault Logan, with a engine like the 1.6 Skyactive Mazda, toyota 8-Speed from the camry, or the 1.5 Diesel from Peugeot that would be already pretty amazing.
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You're never going to force people to buy a car they don't want.

If gas gets too expensive for their lifted 4x4 truck then the consumers wants will change.

In any case, folks will always buy what they want.

Example: for our family, having plenty of space and creature comforts was important and we made purchases accordingly. Honestly, fuel economy is near the end of the list of importance.
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Old 05-11-2021, 10:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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It would only affect the southeast. We still have gas, just have to truck it, opposed to pumping it in a pipeline. the cost is much greater trucking it.

Trivia, the pipe line passes within a mile of house.

The pipe line pumps both diesel and gas. when they switch from one to another, the fuels mix and you get what is called mixed fuel. There is a gas turbine power station near me that uses the fuel to make electrical power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Georgia_Cogen
Don't they run a pig between the different batches? All the ones down in BAKERSFIELD did.
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I'll reiterate that usually people don't make purchasing decisions based on rational criteria, and even some of their irrational criteria can somewhat be considered rational.

If people were rational, advertising would only exist to inform, but you'll notice most advertisements contain zero facts about the product, but instead play a catchy tune, have good looking people using the product, and convey some "you deserve" message.

A man deciding to purchase a truck he doesn't need can improve his appeal to women. Even though he might not consciously come to that conclusion, the subconscious can just make us think a truck is just cool. So long as women find men who drive trucks more attractive, they will be sold for reasons other than utility. There's hardly a woman on earth that would rate a photo of a man sitting in a Prius as attractive as a photo of him sitting in a truck.
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Haven't met my wife? She's a firm believer that the bigger the truck the less endowed you are.
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Old 05-11-2021, 10:53 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Haven't met my wife? She's a firm believer that the bigger the truck the less endowed you are.
I'm sure she says that, but you only say what you're conscious of. There's also the fact that the exception doesn't disprove the rule.

Is a well dressed man "compensating"? How about one that works out? If a man speaks confidently, is he compensating? Are firemen compensating?

Men make thousands of decisions either consciously or subconsciously that are meant to boost their status and image, and hence appear more attractive to women. I doubt a genital study would reveal anything with regards to truck buyers. I do have my suspicions about AntiFa members though :P
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Holy fu˘king hell y'all turned what was supposed to be a fuel price discussion into dick-size speculation.
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