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Old 03-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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First they came for the dairy cows, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a dairy cow...

On the other hand, daylight that happens before I get up is wasted. Daylight in the evenings is a beautiful thing.

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Guess what time we’re on for eight months of the year? Daylight saving time. In what universe is something that happens for only one-third of the time the “standard”? Even before the 2007 change, DST ran for seven months out of 12.
If changing the clocks is what's so bad about it, we should just change what we call standard.

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Old 03-09-2015, 01:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My manufacturing company shuts down for 2 hours during the fall-back time period. This is because manufacturing processes have time stamps, and you can't have a product with a time stamp showing it went through a later stage of processing before a prior stage of processing. I'd guess we loose $1 million per hour because of this.
Why not just do all the timestamps in GMT?
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Why not just do all the timestamps in GMT?
Um... Because they'd rather lose a couple million bucks at 2:00 am on a Sunday every spring? Don't you oppress them!
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Why not just do all the timestamps in GMT?
Trouble lies in our word usages, ie:

Ante Meridian (am) = before the mid-day.
Noon = mid-day (L. meridian), time when sun is directly overhead!
Post Meridian (pm) = after the mid-day.
Midnight = mid-of-night; change to new day.

Greenwich Meridian Time (GMT) only works for Greenwich, England (wink,wink)!

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First they came for the dairy cows, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a dairy cow...

On the other hand, daylight that happens before I get up is wasted. Daylight in the evenings is a beautiful thing.

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If changing the clocks is what's so bad about it, we should just change what we call standard.
Twice a year my Grandma complains about DST - that she is OK with "summer" time but she doesn't feel good during "winter" time. I've tried explaining that "winter" time is the correct time for our longitude, that maybe it's not about "summer" and "winter" times, but about long warm summer days and short cold winter days, that she is retired and can wake up whenever she wants to, etc., but finally gave up. Now I only reply: "If you like your time 1 hour ahead, then move 1 timezone east."

The truth is that we keep shifting our "people" clocks relative to Nature's time, depending on when stores open and close, what movie is being played and on which channel, how many other important things we had to read about on EcoModder late in the evening, ... And even if we shift our clocks by 2h every other day, then the Sun and Moon are still going stay in their cycles. Our measure of time is arbitrary, so we can do with it as we want.
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