The Deadly Heat

[larrybuck]

Dollar store combo visor extension/CD holder!

[slowmover]

Not sure I see a link old bean. Cromwell died in 1658 - although he was executed after death (!) in 1661. Ms Austen was born in 1775 so they were seperated by 117 years. More as she didn't start writing until the 1790s and her stories were more contemporary to her time - late 18th, early 19th century - than the mid-17th.

The connection is between those profited immensely with their Caribbean holdings . . and are presented, in the novels, as otherwise decent people. Desirable husbands.

African slavery is a later development. The initial form of labor -- indentured servitude -- became too costly (in money). But the first century of operation was primarily via transportation for labor.

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by slowmover

The connection is between those profited immensely with their Caribbean holdings . . and are presented, in the novels, as otherwise decent people. Desirable husbands.

Aha, that wasn't clear, in my mind anyway - see below. I'm kind of comparing 1650s brutal civil war with 1790s genteel England...

Originally Posted by slowmover

African slavery is a later development. The initial form of labor -- indentured servitude -- became too costly (in money). But the first century of operation was primarily via transportation for labor.

You are presenting me with an episode of history I am not too familiar with but seems very interesting in terms of the people involved and who profited, or indeed the link between them and what happened to people who Cromwell found undesirable at the time and had removed.

I am aware that lots of people did leave the UK because of the persecutions but I haven't read enough about what happened to them.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Aha, that wasn't clear, in my mind anyway - see below. I'm kind of comparing 1650s brutal civil war with 1790s genteel England...

You are presenting me with an episode of history I am not too familiar with but seems very interesting in terms of the people involved and who profited, or indeed the link between them and what happened to people who Cromwell found undesirable at the time and had removed.

I am aware that lots of people did leave the UK because of the persecutions but I haven't read enough about what happened to them.

I should have been more explicit. Those Irish, Scots and English who came over ca. 1600 onwards didn't do so willingly in the vast majority, and they died like flies, well before their terms of servitude were finished. Those who survived tended to re-locate to America as social mobility was better. (See "redlegs").

Many, if not most, Americans of European ancestry are of either British or German stock . . and most, probably two-thirds, did so under legalized slavery: indentured servitude, up until the American Civil War. It is a myth of this country that their ancestors arrived freely; the obfuscating term "servant" was used for any and all under this duress, black or white. (see also "kidnabbed" and "redemptioners").

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[cfg83]

actwithclarity -

Originally Posted by actwithclarity

Damn I was melting today and it was <80F here. Had to remove my clothes and drive with the window fully opened down the highway. It was not very effective. Guess I'll never be moving to any hot part of the world, or make sure I'm fully air conditioned.

Drink plenty of water! I just got a kidney stone, and I am sure that my no A/C lifestyle contributed to it just a wee bit (my fault!). If I was smart I'd have been keeping myself topped off with fluids as opposed to just keeping my car topped off with fluids.

CarloSW2

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by slowmover

Many, if not most, Americans of European ancestry are of either British or German stock...

Yep, I read that a lot of the very early settlers came over as indentured servants. The deal was that they had to work for a period of time, 10 years maybe, and in return they got their transport and a section of land at the end. And owning a section of land then gave them access to other rights such as voting. This was contrasted with the approach in South America where the ruling classes wanted to keep the land for themselves and wanted the mass of their populations to stay at home.

[rfdesigner]

One idea I came across in Hong Kong was very simple.

A lot of taxis had a roof fitting that created a partial vacuum across the entire roof of the car. Essentially it was a plain aluminium item, with a small air inlet at the front and a much larger exhaust at the back, thus as the car moved forward the air just above the roof would be lower pressure than normal and hence cooler, thus the cabin would in turn be cooled. Drag was fairly minimal, mainly just the added frontal area.

Add to this to a solar powered fan to keep the air inside the car changing while parked, thus meaning the air temperature never gets silly, a chair bead thingy to keep air moving beneath you, and some reflective window tinting and it might all be enough.

Derek

[Sven7]

Originally Posted by rfdesigner

One idea I came across in Hong Kong was very simple.

A lot of taxis had a roof fitting that created a partial vacuum across the entire roof of the car. Essentially it was a plain aluminium item, with a small air inlet at the front and a much larger exhaust at the back, thus as the car moved forward the air just above the roof would be lower pressure than normal and hence cooler, thus the cabin would in turn be cooled. Drag was fairly minimal, mainly just the added frontal area.

Add to this to a solar powered fan to keep the air inside the car changing while parked, thus meaning the air temperature never gets silly, a chair bead thingy to keep air moving beneath you, and some reflective window tinting and it might all be enough.

Derek

On similar lines, maybe have an air duct somewhere inconspicuous in the top of the cabin (where the hottest air is) and direct it through a hole in the back of the roof. The passing airflow creates a low pressure zone and sucks the hot air out of your cabin. You'd need the HVAC on "vent" to let cooler air in.

Also, tint your windows as dark as is legal (especially the back one!) and use a sun shade. Maybe try to find a louver for the back, as that would all but eliminate solar gain.

[sid]

If you have a truck, a topper will shade your back window.

[BamZipPow]

Originally Posted by rfdesigner

One idea I came across in Hong Kong was very simple.

A lot of taxis had a roof fitting that created a partial vacuum across the entire roof of the car. Essentially it was a plain aluminium item, with a small air inlet at the front and a much larger exhaust at the back, thus as the car moved forward the air just above the roof would be lower pressure than normal and hence cooler, thus the cabin would in turn be cooled. Drag was fairly minimal, mainly just the added frontal area.

Add to this to a solar powered fan to keep the air inside the car changing while parked, thus meaning the air temperature never gets silly, a chair bead thingy to keep air moving beneath you, and some reflective window tinting and it might all be enough.

Derek

It looks more like a heat barrier with an air gap...