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Old 09-09-2012, 06:15 AM   #41 (permalink)
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What are those big levers in Ken's car? Easy access E-brake?

Also, how does one steer the rear end of these mud crawlers?
shifter and ebrake in kens car

the rear end is steered by hydraulics, they can be steered differently depending how well the crawler was built up

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The crawlers with rear stear usually have a separate joystick to control the rear steering.
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The crawlers with rear stear usually have a separate joystick to control the rear steering.
Thats how our H-series road blowers do it and they come that way stock.

Interesting feeling having fully independent rear steering, you can drive sideways down the road blocking 4 or 5 lanes of traffic as you go.
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As a motoring enthusiast, and owner of a V8 powered Jeep.. I frickin' hate a lot of these motorsports.

Like the high speed rock buggies, there's intense $kill involved in building them but point-and-shoot driving is meaningless. Still, we all have dumb hobbies so for the most part I don't mind.

Where I do begin to mind is that drivers of 'go anywhere' buggies tend to do the most damage to trails, which in turn is the biggest reason unpaved routes get closed. Year after year I see the same cycle occur, a (legitimate) road through the wilderness becomes boring to side-by-side drivers, quad or rock buggy or other 'built' 4x4 drivers, so they start making new trails across anything that looks fun at the moment, it becomes a complete mess of cobweb trails, and the area gets closed permanently by the agency in charge of that land.
I actually attend the town hall meetings on these when they hold 'em in the evening or on a weekend, to advocate keeping roads open. It's almost always environmental concerns that close a trail, and almost always because of trail damage caused by overuse and by off-trail driving.

As I said, I own a Jeep. I drive out there too. But on the trails. The folks into rock buggy racing, whether they own a bona fide rock buggy or not, are more often than not the offenders who ultimately cause area closures and that is not cool. The 4x4 club I'm in stewards a trail near Phoenix, and it's open to registered parties only - managed by the Ranger District and locked with a gate/padlock. We clean the trail and attempt to block off bogus routes - the pitiful thing is, this is a closed route that the general public can't get to without first registering with the Ranger and obtaining a lock combination - and it's still littered and abused. Some mofos are their own worst enemy - and mine.
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Thankyou for your hard work shovel. I to am an off road driver, though i never go off trail, and always bring more garbage out than i brought. My rig is more of an snow/hunting/camping rig.
You have to admit those crazy buggies are fun to watch, even though they cause alot of damage.
And it pisses me off when i see someone driving in a closed area.
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Thankyou for your hard work shovel. I to am an off road driver, though i never go off trail, and always bring more garbage out than i brought. My rig is more of an snow/hunting/camping rig.
You have to admit those crazy buggies are fun to watch, even though they cause alot of damage.
And it pisses me off when i see someone driving in a closed area.
^5 on cleaning up!

Yeah, the buggies are neat engineering - though I really enjoy them most when I see a skilled driver use one with finesse instead of "YEE HAW HORSEPOWAR!" .. actually it's a heck of a lot of fun when someone shows up to a trail day in a stock SUV and casually pilots through real-deal trails like they're rolling through a parking lot. That's skill.

Good areas getting closed piss me off more than people driving where it's closed... but one begets the other.
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Likewise. Lucky for me my area is sparcely populated enough that its not hard to self govern for the most part. The ones that cause the problems are the yahoos that don't have a proper rig come out drunk and just drive where ever. Luckly they dont go too far in and tear up our more interesting trails. So far our local group has a good relationship with the local BLM, wish I could say the same for the Forest Service.

The probelm we have here with trail closures is more of the environmetalists using the problems you guys face as an example of what they are trying to prevent. In one of our local forests they recently announced that they will be closing 75% of the roads and trails. Many of the others are facing 25-50% closures. Yes some do need closed, but most don't.

South of here in Las Cruces, the Chili Challenge trails are under attack every year despite the participants (tube buggys and all) following the rules.
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