12-28-2013, 10:35 AM
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Yes, but he was testing MPG, not noise or anything else, that is the important thing, especially when claiming %31 increase in mpg. I don't know why you think he is the one being dishonest. If different fuel makes your product go from %31 to %1.95....
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12-28-2013, 11:12 AM
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and again with all the "oil sticks to the diamonds" stuff, pure speculation, indeed I believe that you have not validated that diamonds even get embedded in a running engine except as speculation.
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12-28-2013, 12:04 PM
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What kind of question is that, your saying that I am dishonest because he falsified the report. It proved that more mileage was required for the original large gains in fuel economy to show up, the effect is not instantaneous as testing revealed. One of your own got 30% from the Silver treatment.
You can misquote me all you want, and I am sure you will keep doing it.
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Yes, but he was testing MPG, not noise or anything else, that is the important thing, especially when claiming %31 increase in mpg. I don't know why you think he is the one being dishonest. If different fuel makes your product go from %31 to %1.95....
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12-28-2013, 12:11 PM
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When snake oil fails it is never the products fault. It is always user error.
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12-28-2013, 12:12 PM
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OMG, you call basic science - speculation?
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and again with all the "oil sticks to the diamonds" stuff, pure speculation, indeed I believe that you have not validated that diamonds even get embedded in a running engine except as speculation.
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12-28-2013, 12:27 PM
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I've not seen how you validated these things, or why you think lower noise = %31 mpg improvement. You avoid the question instead of saying "here is my proof".
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12-28-2013, 01:54 PM
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The beating jogged my memory about WHY the experts needed more fuel. The MPG rose too much between later runs and it was out of the allowable increase between runs. The test was formulated around known materials and not one that required break in over longer periods.
P, who do you work for, Mobil, Timkin, maybe both?
Its been a slice, but I Gotta Jet amigos.
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I've not seen how you validated these things, or why you think lower noise = %31 mpg improvement. You avoid the question instead of saying "here is my proof".
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12-28-2013, 02:00 PM
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Lol, the MPG rose, so they needed more fuel, you are a hoot! And using pump gas instead of dyno gas explains everything...
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12-29-2013, 04:10 PM
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What we have here is looking more and more like a snake oil salesman selling a legitimate product.
A 2% MPG gain is over $1000 per year for a semi truck. Fleet operators would jump at it if the product was priced appropriately.
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12-29-2013, 04:57 PM
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Maybe you know of a fleet that wants to try one SEMI kit for FREE?
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Tragicomic
What we have here is looking more and more like a snake oil salesman selling a legitimate product.
A 2% MPG gain is over $1000 per year for a semi truck. Fleet operators would jump at it if the product was priced appropriately.
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