diesel mustang--how would you make one?

[Bror Jace]

A Quick addendum, his name is Jim Young and lives in Cornwall, Connecticut. He is a moderator on that Rovers forum ... and a pretty cool guy.

[Dust]

Japan has many of the Mazda/Ford 2 liter diesels. I know that the mustang engines will fit in rangers, so there should be someway to get the RF7 into the mustang, just depends on how much you want to spend. An older fox body would be much easier though.

Other suggestions would be the Mercedes or VW engines, maybe even the 2.5L 5 cylinder from the bigger VW’s in Europe. If you could go older, there are A LOT of diesel engines here in Japan, from a 1.6VW to a 3.1L Isuzu in sedans. wagons, and SUVs.

[diesel_john]

a decent price on propane is $2.25/ gallon right now, but you will need to have your own 1000 gal. bulk tank and transfer pump.
they have electronic controlled propane injection in europe.
you can put any engine in any car, it is only a matter of time and money.
if you have a limited amount of either, then get a mustang put a 2.5 differential in it out of crowny vicy or whatever at $200/ton (ford made a ton of them) and drive it.

oh by the way it has been illegal to put any non compliant engine in an emissions regulated highway vehicle since like 1975 or maybe even 1970, not that there is any thing wrong with that. But federal does include most states. not that there aren't loop holes.

[roflwaffle]

Isn't it 1958 or something? I think I asked a CARB ref about this before...

[diesel_john]

I think Calyfornya was in the '60's and the fed clean air that started EPA was in '70. you could be right cause they had positive crankcase ventilation before that.

[trikkonceptz]

Originally Posted by elmor001

I am kind of interested in the propane now. I never really thought of that. How is a toyota 21r different from a 22r. I can't find any 21r's on ebay but there are a bunch of 22r's

the 21R was set up as a propane powered motor only and used still in forklifts. I would imaginge your search would start with forklift part vendors. Not doing much research in this area recently I can't imagine the difference being much more than heads and obviously the carb set up.

But hell I can already picture that motor in one of those uhaul toyota dually's minus the box, with a regular bed ... Whoo hoo, a mini dually, that is propane powered ... SWEEET !!!

[elmor001]

Originally Posted by elmor001

would turbo charging a v6 mustang increase its efficiency if driven conservatively?

Can someone answer this?

Originally Posted by diesel_john

then get a mustang put a 2.5 differential in it out of crowny vicy or whatever at $200/ton (ford made a ton of them) and drive it.

How much would a new differential help?

[roflwaffle]

Originally Posted by elmor001

Can someone answer this?

Not much, especially compared to the cost. With an auto, swapping to a manual with a OD+rear end ratio on the tall side, or just adding a taller rear end for a manual, would result in a bigger bang for your buck.

[roflwaffle]

Originally Posted by diesel_john

I think Calyfornya was in the '60's and the fed clean air that started EPA was in '70. you could be right cause they had positive crankcase ventilation before that.

It looks like it's CA in 57 and 50-state in 67.

State and Federal Standards for Mobile-Source Emissions its pollution problems and pioneering efforts in regulating vehicle emissions. Congress concluded that “although the situation may change, in the 15 years that auto emission standards have been debated and discussed, only the State of California has demonstrated compelling and extraordinary circumstances sufficiently different from the Nation as a whole to justify standards on automobile emissions which may, from time to time, need to be more stringent than national standards” (S. Rep. No. 403, 90th Cong., 1st Sess. 33 [1967]). Moreover, California had begun regulating emissions from motor vehicles in 1957, almost a decade before the federal government began developing a national program. House of Representative John E. Moss stated that continuation of those “pioneering” efforts “offer a unique laboratory, with all the resources necessary, to develop effective control devices which can become a part of the resources of this Nation …” (113 Cong. Rec. 30975 [1967]). The legislation eventually adopted by Congress in 1967 included a compromise provision that directed the secretary of HEW to waive the preemption of state standards, provided the conditions specified in section 209(b) of the statute are met (discussed below), for “any State which has adopted standards (other than crankcase emission standards) for the control of emissions from new motor vehicles or new motor vehicle engines prior to March 30, 1966” (Pub. L. No. 90-148, § 208(b), 81 Stat. 501).

[JohnnyGrey]

How about sourcing an old SVO motor and pulling the turbo off?