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Old 01-22-2023, 08:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Distance sensor for drafting

Thinking about a distance sensor to make drafting a bit safer.
Three types, depending on functionality:
  1. Only displays distance to the vehicle you are following,
  2. Reads your speed and also displays how many seconds behind the vehicle you are,
  3. Interacts with your cruise control to keep either the distance or the time constant (with a limit on max speed).
Option 2 would be helpful for me, as Poland recently adopted a new 3-second minimum following time, to combat tail-gating.

Just tossing this idea up for discussion about available and DIY sensors.

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4. Buy a new car with that feature.

4a. Raid such a car for the sensors, and homebrew a software solution.
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Look for vehicles that come with adaptive cruise control, if your vehicle has the option on a higher trim level, you might be able to find a totalled one and get all the parts to install on yours, then enable it using special programming software like Forscan or others.
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What range are blind spot monitors good at ?
I have seen several aftermarket sensors for cheap.
It seems that the alert signal could be used to signal the braking system as well with modification.

But what you are thinking of is a system that doesn't just apply brakes.
The adaptive cruise control modification seems like a good idea to start with.

This "long range" IR detector is only good up to 18 feet.

https://acroname.com/store/long-rang...16-gp2y0a710yk

Also, this could be modified :
https://youtu.be/qHYPG6x6Yqo

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Seems like if 3 seconds is safe for humans, 2 seconds should be sufficient for a machine.

This question reminds me of discussions on the Chevy Bolt (EV) forum of how to add a gas generator to extend range. I tell them you buy a plug-in hybrid which comes with a purpose-built range extending generator.
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Thank you all forthe feedback

Indeed I had in mind an aftermarket sensor (radar on a chip? I read in PopSci decades ago that those will be common soon) and how to adapt it for safe and/or legal distance drafting.

A new, advanced car is not an option for me. Not to mention that their distance sensors must be soooo integrated into other electronics and features that it would be impossible to hack to our preferences.

In general I do not expect to make and use such a sensor, only wanted to open discussion in case it may inspire someone. Unless such a sensor would be exceptionally easy to concoct, then I might...
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This takes you way down the wrong rabbit hole, but maybe you can get the idea:

www.tomshardware.com/how-to/raspberry-pi-facial-recognition

But if it can recognize faces it has to separate them from the surroundings, and if t can discriminate friends from random strangers it should be able to discern relative velocities.
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Might not be a completely wrong rabbit hole...
If it could recognise license plates, then from the plate's apparent width you could calculate the distance.
Also, knowing your road speed it could calculate that license plate's speed relative to you, which would allow much smoother and safer control of your car.
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I figured manufacturers were using radar for distance calcs, not vision? I'd certainly be more inclined to use radar since that's simpler.

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