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Do Aircraft carriers have any Aero design onsiderations?
Specifically, is any gain in laminar airflow across the flight deck to assist/enhance take-off and landings a consideration in the ships overall design?
8-1-24 Delete "landings" from this discussion
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07-10-2024, 10:50 AM
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I would suspect not since a carrier deck, as well as an LHA has tiedowns, stays, catapault tracks, elevators and sometimes aircraft, ropes cables buildings.
Might be a bit of laminar over the bow, at speed, into a stiff wind, but it wouldn't exist very far.
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On US carriers the deck is extremely flat in the takeoff portion IMO.
My thinking a carrier in many ways might operate as an inverted flat bottom car with a front splitter, optimizing smooth/proper air flow for aircraft on the deck, but my question centers around, is that intentional?
Maybe not, since the "sky Jump" carrier decks would have I suspect lousy aero features,
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Looks Flat to me.
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Compared to what? They have the advantage over land based runways in that they can orient into the wind.
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Boat-tail a carrier?
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07-10-2024, 01:59 PM
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Compared to what? .
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"My thinking a carrier in many ways might operate as an inverted flat bottom car with a front splitter, optimizing smooth/proper air flow for aircraft on the deck, but my question centers around, is that intentional?"
Seems air with a non-splitter early style blunt bow would be likely cascading a lot of turbulence over the bow and would generate very unpredictable and large air currents onto the deck just as a plane was lifting off.
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Your test case would be those carriers with an ski-jump ramp.
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Ski-jump
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In aviation, a ski-jump is an upward-curved ramp that allows aircraft to take off from a runway that is shorter than the aircraft's required takeoff roll. By forcing the aircraft upwards, lift-off can be achieved at a lower airspeed than that required for sustained flight, while allowing the aircraft to accelerate to such speed in the air rather than on the runway. Wikipedia
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Apparently, the reason these are used is they can delete the catapult system.
Also, the comparison is to a car's underbody, which is a plenum.
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Your test case would be those carriers with an ski-jump ramp.
Apparently, the reason these are used is they can delete the catapult system.
Also, the comparison is to a car's underbody, which is a plenum.
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No it's not, because it appears rather obvious the benefits of the ski jump solution outweigh the negatives of beneficial smooth airflow that a ski jump does not allow, and that is mainly when not able to afford or incorporate a catapult system.
The car analogy I was using here has nothing to do with a plenum, it centered mainly on the latest designs on the carrier deck acting like a car's front splitter which calms under chassis air flow leading to other attributes that apply little to a carrier, like DF, drag etc,
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Whatever....
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