Dreaming of a euro car...

[MetroMPG]

Originally Posted by A.J.

There the Fiat 500 is available with the 0.9L TwinAir gasoline 2 cylinder engine.

I laughed when I saw the videos you posted - I previously spent more than a few minutes watching (listening to) videos of that Fiat twin when they were first posted.

Would sure be interesting to drive one.

Unfortunately, it will never meet North American "consumers' " "demands" for "power" and "refinement".

That's true... at current fuel prices! (Check back with this thread in 10 or 15 years.)

[A.J.]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

That's true... at current fuel prices! (Check back with this thread in 10 or 15 years.)

True, but the Europeans are not gonna be sleeping for the next 15 years...

[some_other_dave]

Originally Posted by Ed-in-Maine

But 20 is hard to believe we are talking hwy cruise control on at 60-65mph right, not 100+?

Does cruise control work on any 911s of this vintage? I figured it was like the A/C, some buttons that might have been useful at one point but were now decoration...

One of my wife's favorite lines about the car is "I was only going 85 MPH!" (Because the speedo tops out at 85...)

Maybe we've found the cause for her MPG after all.

-soD

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by seifrob

I am glad that Fiat didn't made the same mistake VW did with its Beetle/new beetle.

I saw a parked new new beetle yesterday.
It's even uglier than the old new beetle, and the Herbie 53 stickers gave it that extra marginal look.



As for the Fiat TwinAir engine, it's pretty hard to get it down to its NEDC fuel economy rating, but it has potential.

Forummember SaveFuel got his 500 down to 3.72 L/100km - that's 63mpg US - by keeping to 90kph - 56mph
Details: Fiat - 500 - TWINAIR - Spritmonitor.de

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by A.J.

Diesel! Heresy!
I saw that too. Don't even get me started on that one, it gets 58.8 / 81.1 mpg (city/highway) on the Euro Test Cycle.

Just remember that the Euro test cycle (NEDC) is far less realistic than the US EPA numbers.
While matching EPA is fairly easily achievable, matching NEDC in real life is a lot harder.

I consider anyone matching the NEDC numbers as an hypermiler.

[A.J.]

Originally Posted by euromodder

SaveFuel got his 500 down to 3.72 L/100km - that's 63mpg US - by keeping to 90kph - 56mph

Still, 63 mpg is amazing!