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Methanol is reported to be more toxic and corrosive.
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The Gasoline its self is pretty toxic. Methanol is no worse than benzene already found in gas.
Ethanol is also corrosive.
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09-02-2015, 03:59 PM
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Ethanol is also corrosive.
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Sure, but it's less corrosive than methanol. |
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09-03-2015, 01:35 AM
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Ethanol is also corrosive.
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Well, so is water. Especially if you add a bit of salt to it :-) |
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09-03-2015, 03:40 AM
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Ethanol gets less corrosive if you add a tiny amount of water. Or rather, not subtract the last bit of water at great cost.
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09-03-2015, 01:31 PM
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Well, so is water. Especially if you add a bit of salt to it :-)
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Good point.
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1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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09-03-2015, 03:43 PM
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At any rate, some years ago I dropped the tank from the Coupe to replace the fuel pump and it was spotlessly clean, no corrosion and no crud, in a 19 years old at the time non-flex-fuel vehicle with a metal tank. I've never replaced the fuel filter in the 15 years I've owned it. I've run lots of straight E85 through it over the years.
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09-03-2015, 05:27 PM
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Sounds like they are the Ethanol Production Agency.
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09-03-2015, 05:58 PM
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But the government requires that 13 billion gallons of ethanol be blended into the fuel supply weather we need it or not.
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Yeah, and they require earthquake reinforcement on buildings and bridges, whether or not you happen to be having an earthquake right now or now. Same with fire & flood protections, vaccinations, &c. Remember the old saw about locking the barn door after the horse was stolen? |
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09-04-2015, 10:32 AM
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Ethanol gets less corrosive if you add a tiny amount of water. Or rather, not subtract the last bit of water at great cost.
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No wonder the "pure" ethanol we use as automobile fuel in Brazil still has some 4% water content measured in volume. |
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http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2...enberg_2-b.pdf
Happened across this on different site. Page 5 they note 18.5% mpg loss from E10 to E85 almost exactly what I've experience with the 2 FFV I've owned.
It seems that Mercedes wants to increase the amount of ethanol per gallon to get a higher octane fuel.
Little more reading on Tier 3 fuels. And where image came from. 
http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2...omass_2014.pdf
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