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Old 09-24-2014, 01:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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EPA raw data

So I was poking around trying to decipher the EPA testing methodology and found these pages.
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I downloaded the "2015 Fuel Economy Datafile" and found a great sort able resource. It probably has been mentioned here before but I haven't seen it so thought maybe it was worth mentioning.
I personally like the column N "Highway un-adjusted FE" which i believe is the old standard, completely un-adjusted, old school easy acceleration, easy braking, low speed highway test that best reflects the way hypermillers drive.
Here it shows a 10.3 mile test with a maximum speed of 60 mph and quite a bit of 40-60 mph fluctuation.
Detailed Test Information

So then sorting that column high to low and you see some good numbers, 3 almost 70 MPG hybrids, 2 more 65-67 hybrids, the TDI Golfs and Jettas, the BMW 328d turbo diesel, and the lowly Mirage CVT. Money wise it is the bargain economy champ. The un-adjusted old school city is 49.4 mpg, and highway 63.4 mpg. The Fiesta SFE is also pretty high and probably a much better car overall. Also contrary to the sticker they put on the window the manual version gets better then the auto in those old school tests, 41/61 mpg for the manual compared to 36/54 mpg for the auto.

They also list a lot of the other features and is a good way to compare lots of cars in one spot.

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Old 09-24-2014, 08:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They had a writeup in the local paper last weekend that basically stated the 2025 requirement for around 55 MPG would be 40 on a modern car's window sticker.
They also reduced thieir results by 20% so maybe they do better than we think. Remember if you reduce any amount by 20% you have to increase the result by 25% in order to get to the same original amount.

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The EPA should have never changed the way it calcluates MPG in 2008. Why should the EPA even care that most people are TERRIBLE drivers? Give the educated driver a better idea of what a car is capable of if driven sensibly.
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CARS should come with FE-vs-MPH mappings just like AIRCRAFT come with 'flight envelope' graphs!
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My intrepid was rated at 25hwy in 2000 and I could get 27-29 on a tank without any trouble. My '08 cts is rated at 26hwy and I have a tough time getting above 27-28 on a tank.

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