Eureka! HHO works! But ony if you pee in your cell :D

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

I mean I didn't see anything about engines with copper plating inside the combustion chambers. Other than copper gaskets which could still be facing some direct heat from the combustion.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

I mean I didn't see anything about engines with copper plating inside the combustion chambers. Other than copper gaskets which could still be facing some direct heat from the combustion.

As far as I know it's been done only once... by the guy who wrote the paper.
BUT
the results a spectacular IMHO and the doing is so easy that I'm surprised more people here aren't all over this.
I'm guessing that most here aren't engine re/builders so ok..

There are other sources of free and quite easy hydrogen in an engine.
I might get into that.

[Piotrsko]

How do you keep the copper adhering to the steel? Galvanic Plating has been known to not wear well and copper has this tendency to smear (that could be a bonus)

[Logic]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

How do you keep the copper adhering to the steel? Galvanic Plating has been known to not wear well and copper has this tendency to smear (that could be a bonus)

No idea.
And it's 'adhering to the' aluminum more often than not...

Sigh... For aluminum; It's more complicated than I initially thought, requiring Zincating the Alu 1st.
https://www.finishing.com/05/55.shtml
A consolation is that Zinc is also a catalyst for what we want.

Or maybe not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH0tp6TSqDc

yet more research reqd.

[Logic]

https://finishingandcoating.com/inde...ion-of-zincate

[Logic]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

How do you keep the copper adhering to the steel? Galvanic Plating has been known to not wear well and copper has this tendency to smear (that could be a bonus)

It just occurred to me to check how the copper was plated on in the research engine:

"...using a standard electroplating process...using cyanide copper bath (Poola 1993), which produces a coating of porous nature and a fine deposition of metal on the surface...thin coatings (about 20-60 microns)..."
https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:...dc740511/m1/8/

Sounds to me like the porous nature means a higher surface area.
Why the "fine deposition" is also mentioned; I dont know.
Perhaps a fine deposition rather than a solid 'plate' of copper is less likely to come lose due to different coefficients of expansion.

The questions of durability and carbon fouling of the catalyst surface are not answered in the study.
However I NB that red hot carbon + Steam = H + CO as used in Syngas production.
ie: Steam, an end product of HC combustion in O2, is cleaning mechanism for your catalytic surface that just so happens to also produce H.

It's also very easy to add extra water mist or steam to the intake mix and its temporary addition is an old method of cleaning carbon out of engines.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Logic

There are other sources of free and quite easy hydrogen in an engine.

Hydrogen enhancement to an engine seems to be neither easy or free

[Logic]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Hydrogen enhancement to an engine seems to be neither easy or free

...
Its never free (capital outlay and time), but 1 or 2 are close!

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Trying to make something easy to use and at a reasonable cost, while keeping it safe, is always quite challenging. Not saying I would never be willing to try, but I take it with a grain of salt.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Trying to make something easy to use and at a reasonable cost, while keeping it safe, is always quite challenging. Not saying I would never be willing to try, but I take it with a grain of salt.

Oh easy to use / implement and no added weight is high on my priority list.