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Old 07-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Everyone but honda gets smacked on the sales floor

Check it out from the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/bu...02auto.html?hp

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Vindication for Honda after so many years. Their original formula for getting their foot into the door of the USA pays off again.

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Nobody gets more miles from a gallon of gas than Honda. Nobody.

Okay, the Prius does. But nobody ELSE does.
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nobody gets more miles from a gallon of gas than Honda. Nobody.

Okay, the Prius does. But nobody ELSE does.
I think the fact the toyota was hit as hard as the big three shows that one car can not a green car company make. I love toyota's quality and whatnot, but I'm really happy honda has always believed in small cars and conservation and really stuck their neck out for it.
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I think the fact the toyota was hit as hard as the big three shows that one car can not a green car company make. I love toyota's quality and whatnot, but I'm really happy honda has always believed in small cars and conservation and really stuck their neck out for it.
I look at Toyota as the "GM of Japan" because they make all kinds of cars. Honda was actually behind the SUV curve in the early 1990's and had to rebadge a Isuzu and call it the Passport to catchup. This was a criticism of Honda in the 1990's that is a boon to them now.

I just wish they'd make a new Civic HF coupe. Guess I'll have to settle for a new CRX in a year or two (I hope!).

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The Toyota Yaris is one of the best EPA ratings. OTOH, the Scion xD (that replaces the xA) is heavier, less aerodynamic, and it has a larger engine than the xA...

Honda has the Fit and the Civic in greater numbers than Toyota has the Corolla, Yaris, and the xD. GM has the Aveo5 and the Aveo, the Cobalt; and Ford has...the Focus. Chrysler has...nothing. (They replaced the Neon with the Caliber -- d'oh!)
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Toyota's sales fell because they couldn't meet demands... which translates into they are still trying to cater to a shrinking market of luxury, SUVs and trucks when the consumer base is not as interested in them as before. I like Toyota and was pretty stoked to get my hands on my Scion but even this I had to wait for. If Toyota was really on the ball, they would be able to meet buyer demands for Prius' and Yarii

....as it stands, they are not. But at least they're not taking a bath like Chrysler. Ouch.
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Good point about Toyota's SUV line. How many Sequoia, Tundra, 4Runner, Landcruiser, etc. are they selling.

The shortage of Prius is also a bit of a fiasco. People want the 2nd gen Prius. Why cut production to ramp up the third gen Prius and the Camry and Highlander Hybrids? Why not eliminate Camry and Highlander production and delay the 3rd gen Prius, and sell the hell out of the 2nd gen Prius that everybody and their brother wants?

See what Toyota is actually selling. Corollas sell more than F-150s now! And Tundras.

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