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Back in the '80's Hot Rod magazine had a series of articles where they stripped weight from some otherwise stock car, ultimately ending up with no body whatsoever; IIRC just the firewall and dashboard. My cousin did that to some heap he had access to and I'm told nobody, NOBODY could touch him in a drag race.
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Are you thinking of the Sport Compact article where they chop up a Sentra until it's a floorpan with wheels? (I had a link to it, but it appears to have died). IIRC, they reduced the 1/4-mile time from something like 17 seconds to 14.
Hot Rod did a Duster drag car with significant weight reduction, replacing body panels with fiberglass, etc. They dropped nearly 600 lbs and included cost per pound lost.

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03-25-2020, 05:08 PM
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I hear that some of the "stock" cars racing at Goodwood have been "strategically rusted" from inside so that you can put your hand through flawless looking deck lids. For super-light fenders and other panels, you can pull a fiberglass mold from the metal part, and then build up a thin fiberglass skin, with a layer of foam and then another thin skin, and a few extra layers where needed for the bolts, etc.
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03-25-2020, 05:54 PM
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For super-light fenders and other panels, you can pull a fiberglass mold from the metal part, and then build up a thin fiberglass skin, with a layer of foam and then another thin skin, and a few extra layers where needed for the bolts, etc.
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It's often reported that some Brazilian DKW racing cars had their body replaced with fiberglass ones which were so thin to the point of being translucent.
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03-25-2020, 06:07 PM
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All fiberglass is translucent unless heavily pigmented.
In the Kinetic Sculpture Races, there was a replica 1960s Cadillac convertible that weighed about 110 lbs - 50 kg. It would churn serenely across the water on its 2" styrofoam chassis pan, with four riders.
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03-25-2020, 11:57 PM
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All fiberglass is translucent unless heavily pigmented.
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I forgot it, but even with some pigmentation those were reported to be quite translucent. Well, presumably such a thin layer of fiberglass won't stand to a lot of pigmentation...
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03-26-2020, 09:06 AM
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Reminds me of one of the silly project articles Car & Driver did about a million years ago. The premis was that one of the writers ran into someone about to spend $$$ on a Civic to get it to some really low 1/4 time.
They framed the article along the lines of "I said I could make it get that time, spending under $XXX" and the storyline was "look at what we tricked this kid into letting us to to his mom's car".
They mainly went with weight and frontal area reduction. With a sawzall. And recouped most of what they did spend by selling the OE rims and getting steelies from a junkyard.
And ended with "Here- we got that 1/4 time you wanted for dirt cheap, just like you wanted".
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I believe an Insight shell weighs only ~250-300lbs. It's a much better candidate for weight reduction than a Civic.
Just pull the batteries out and replace the glass with plastic and you're probably close to 1000lbs.
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Makes me lurk about the aerodynamic impact of all those holes, and if an approach similar to the golf balls could actually fare better.
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