Ford 1 litre turbo 3 cylinder ecoboost.

[sheepdog 44]

Found this via cleanmpg: Ford Focus 1.0-litre Ecoboost (2012) CAR review | Road Testing Reviews | Car Magazine Online

99 bhp 125 lbsft of torque at 1400rpm 58.8mpg available now in a ford focus.
I'm glad to see another 3 cylinder coming to production cars.

Was wondering what you guys think of this engine. As far as transplanting this into your car or trike project, would this be the best option? If the focus is rated at 58.8 with this engine, then should't it be more fuel efficient than the Prius and 1st gen Insight engines especially since it relies only on the three cylinder and not electric assist?

Better viable option as opposed to importing a three cylinder diesel from over seas that may or may not meet emissions?

[Daox]

The Focus in Europe is rated 58.8 mpg imperial which is only 48.9 mpg US. Its also their test cycle. The EPA rating would be much lower. This engine also wont be going into the Focus in the US, but they are planning on offering it on the Fiesta. I think it'll probably be a great engine and its nice to finally see something smaller than 1.4-1.5L in a US car.

[niky]

Transplanting will depend on how complicated the control systems are. I've heard that sometimes these new ECUs don't like it if they can't see every single sensor and body control submodules they expect to be on the car they think they're in.

Converting to aftermarket ECU might lose you some of the finer control over the low load lean burn abilities that ultra-quick direct injection control gives you.

[tjts1]

I don't understand why the timing BELT is lubricated through the oil pan. Madness.

[Frank Lee]

Lil Honda industrial engines have an internal oil lubed belt too.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by sheepdog 44

I'm glad to see another 3 cylinder coming to production cars.

Was wondering what you guys think of this engine. As far as transplanting this into your car or trike project, would this be the best option?

@ 100 or 125 HP it's way too powerful.


IMO the VW 60 HP 1.0 L 3 cylinder from the Up! would be a better choice for a lightweight economy vehicle.
(The 75 HP version is geared shorter, and gets its extra HP from more revs.)

[Daox]

There really isn't a big penalty for having the extra horsepower. Plus, if it actually gets people into Fiesta sized vehicles its more than worth it. Sadly, 60 or even 75 hp would be laughed at and completely slammed by nearly all car reviewers and consumers in the US. Reviewers of the new Prius C are already harping on it being so slow, and it has 99 hp and electric assist!

[niky]

Murricans... am-i-right?

But seriously... 60 hp is pretty slow for typical US highway speeds, though it's acceptable for urban traffic. Micro-cars with about 60-75 hp get from 0-30 mph in a respectable amount of time (similar to bigger engined cars). It's that slog from 30-60 mph that's the killer.

Then again, people who care about gas mileage really shouldn't be bothered by taking 15 to 18 seconds to hit 60 mph.

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One cheap engine that might be easy to swap in is the Suzuki K10. 1.0 3-cylinder. Around 65 hp, gets about 20 km/l (mixed) and over 30 km/l on highway runs... (nearly 80 mpg at a steady 50 mph in a standard Suzuki), and it's available in the Indian market Maruti Alto, which means less complicated body control and sensor crap to deal with when swapping, yet it is still EUROIV compliant.

[gone-ot]

...typically, only 15-20 hp is needed for steady 55-60 mph highway cruising.

...the "extra" hp is required to get out your own way on on-ramps, hills, and passing lethargic snails...ie: when accelerating!

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by Daox

There really isn't a big penalty for having the extra horsepower.

But there definitely is a penalty for it.
There's no big penalty for any gas sucking feature - but add all of them and you'll end up with a gas-guzzler.

Sadly, 60 or even 75 hp would be laughed at and completely slammed by nearly all car reviewers and consumers in the US.

That's another unfortunate side-effect of having nearly free gasoline.
There's plenty of cars in Europe in that HP range.
There were even more of them back in the days when our cars weren't as big and heavy as they are now.

Yet we can cope with them, so why can't Americans ?
Safety is not really the issue - just about all European countries have better safety statistics than the US.

Reviewers of the new Prius C are already harping on it being so slow, and it has 99 hp and electric assist!

Of course, when you're used to testing the kind of big overpowered gas monsters that fill the US roads, and when your fuel is paid for by your readers, the li'l Prius C will lose its attractiveness to the tester who'd rather be in a far less down-to-earth vehicle.