Ford 1 litre turbo 3 cylinder ecoboost.

[cbaber]

Originally Posted by Dieselman

Which one is that, Toyota or Volkswagen?

Try GM?

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by mcrews

The gas isn't 'free'. we just dont triple the price of it with stupid liberal tax policies.

Sure, the gas isn't free - because many Americans needlessly use so much of it that it eventually evens out.

Why, if it's so great over there....(yeah right) do you really care about what we do over here?

Well, you can't say that what you do in the US, doesn't have its effect on us.
It drives prices up - with the taxes, even more for us than for you - and sucks wells dry in a hurry.

Oh! I just had a thought.....your bitter and want us to have a crappy life like you do!!!!

Why would I be bitter buddy ?

I don't have the financial issues some of the folks on this forum seem to have - money is not what drives me to consume a bit less.
Some of the comments on here make me wonder how these people get by.

I don't have to worry about health or healthcare - it's taken care of.

I don't have to worry about my job - business is booming.

My holiday for the year is planned ...

What makes you think I'd have a crappy life ?


I'm just painting the picture as it is, and that picture shows a truly gas-guzzling nation where for many, big just isn't big enough.
100 HP isn't enough ... we get by.
The Euro Ford Transit is too small ... we get our work done with it.

How's all that 'free' socialism working for you today.....

We could do with a bit less socialism, but all in all, I wouldn't want to trade permanently with the average American.

[California98Civic]

Originally Posted by cbaber

Not quite. The reason gas prices in Europe are so high is because the governments tax it so much to pay for their socialist systems. In America gas drives our economy, drives us around, and makes our world go. So our government subsidizes it to make it cheaper and keep us happy and growing. This has worked out great. We love our cars and thats why we have the biggest auto company in the world.

If you honestly believe the socialism type of society is better, please look at whats happening in Europe right now. Greece is burning. Europe is about ready to crash because of the debt they are in. Its all because they have to pay for all the social programs they give to their citizens. When citizens depend so much on the government, wheres the money come from? Nowhere, and thats why they are in do much debt.

I'll keep my free market capitalist society where you are free to do more with the money you earn. I do not want our country to end up like Europe, its just not American.

Isn't this thread supposed to be about a 1.0 liter turbo Ford three-banger?

[lowglider]

Of course it is. It`s a wonderful engine and I hope we get to hypermile it some day, the improved aerodynamics of new Ford cars can only make it better.

Now let`s get back to fighting about who is right.
Reality check. The biggest auto company in the world is Toyota. The strongest economic power in the world is the EU. The US just makes the rules because it used to be the biggest and because it helped save the world against the Nazis in WW2. And also because it goes to war with anyone who opposes it.

Even though the US government is strictly against free health care, education etc. it still manages to tax the **** out of its citizens and spend a bunch more than it earns, of which billions are spent on killing plenty of people thousands of miles away. U.S. National Debt Clock

So basically, what socialist countries spend on healthcare and welfare, the others spend on killing people and the debt comes out very similar.

[user removed]

The US is stupid.
Europe is stupid.

Y'all happy now.

I would love to see Ford bring the 1 liter cast iron ecotec engine to the US, in a Fiesta sized car with no power options as standard equipment. Only problem is there are probably not very many like me who would possibly buy one. Stuff a nice wide ratio 6 speed in that baby that tached maybe 1800 at 65MPH with good enough aero.

Until than I will just ride my 73-85 MPG bike for most of my trips, even 815 miles in January. What's that 11 gallons of gas. We owe nothing and make decent money, most of which is retirement and investments. Yesterday 40 miles on two quarts of gas. If the US ever wises up and allows the manufacturers to sell something here like the small cars in Europe, I might buy one, but for now the cost just doesn't justify changing what's in my garage, unless something fairly dramatic becomes available.

Even if that happens it still has to be cost effective. All the garbage they want me to buy that I would probably never use could be replaced with a power outlet, so I don't have to worry about carrying the weight of all that obsolete crap around in two years.

My 13 year old car should be good for another 60k miles, and that would work out to another 10 years or so. Heck the bike might last that long, and I don't have 6k in both of them. with plenty of back ups sitting in the garage, even one that is 40 years old and still gets close to 60 MPG.

regards
Mech

[sendler]

I like the 1.0 ecoboost engine and would rather buy a Fiesta than a Fiat when my Insight dies.

[payne171]

I will add that the US would have a lot more socialized welfare for its citizens if it took the massive amounts of foreign aid and diverted it back home.

I don't think that the cost of fuel is the only driving force in larger engines. The United States is not as densely populated as Europe. It is a suburban society built around the interstate highway filled with semi trucks. Driving long straight stretches where one might need to accelerate quickly to not be run over by a semi is an environment that screams big vehicle/big engine. European roads that are not as straight or at as high of an average speed place more emphasis on handling, hence smaller cars that dont need such large engines. I would bet that Europeans that have to drive on the Autobahn are a lot more likely to buy more powerful vehicles than the average European, as That is a lot less friendly environment for low powered subcompacts. It doesn't particularly bother me (I drive a 2000 Insight), but virtually all of the women in my family drive SUVs because the size of the vehicle and the 4 or all wheel drive make them feel safer.

The 1.0 ecoboost is the future of engine building, whether in Europe or the US. I believe we will see engines like this worldwide, with the US versions being available with more boost.

[niky]

Originally Posted by RunningStrong

A bizarre statement as US highway speeds are "legally" below that of Europe where highway speeds are 70-80 mph. And the most common small car in the UK atleast is the Ford Ka, with a massive 59 hp and abundant on motorways.

Except when going between countries, where you're on the highway, Europe isn't laid out much like America, with big, wide roads and endless miles of nothing. You have lots of small towns to drive through and lots of narrow, winding roads. Couple that with the higher prices of fuel, and people think nothing of going long distance with an "underpowered" car... versus the US, where you can spend long boring hours with the throttle pinned to the floor between states.

Asia is more like Europe, except our narrow, winding roads are in even worse condition. We do have highways where you can peg the needle, but they're few and far between, and high gas prices force consumers to basically buy as little engine as they can get away with. Over here, anything over 1.6 liters (gasoline) is considered a "gas guzzler" and the biggest diesels you see on the road are typically 3.0... with mere 2.0 - 2.5 diesels being the norm.

I find anything with more than 80 hp completely adequate, if a little frustrating when going uphill, as it's easy to get stuck behind someone going at a snail's pace.

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I think the US-Europe comparison is a non-argument. We all agree here that fuel economy is important, right? US and European driving conditions evolved under a different set of factors, creating what is there now, as payne points out. (Incidentally, a similar set of conditions created the Australian market, which also likes big cars with big engines...). What's left for us is to deal with these conditions as best we can.

Originally Posted by Ecky

Does the turbo run continuously or is it low-compression when cruising?

Modern turbos are variable-geometry. There's a low-rpm trim that spools up faster, and a high-rpm trim that pushes more air. This keeps boost fairly constant from just above idle to redline, resulting in a nice, flat torque curve.

As for cruising, I'm pretty sure it will use ultra-lean burn at part throttle cruising for more economy.

[user removed]

I read somewhere the turbo spins up to 250k rpm. Must be a very small one on a 1 liter engine.

regards
Mech

[payne171]

It runs continuously, but it only spins as much as exhaust manifold pressure dictates. That depends on throttle opening.