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Old 03-19-2019, 12:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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My favorite is people off-roading their Prius or minivan and passing groups of jeeps.
You mean idiots destroying clunkers?



Fuelly suggests that 15mpg is what these get, or about 5 worse than my Wrangler.

Jeeps actually get AMAZING economy for an American vehicle. How a minivan gets 15mpg is beyond me when my 'full size' euro van gets 40.

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and now you're stuck, in water, with a high voltage battery.

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Old 03-19-2019, 12:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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If you got an improvement, it was because you had an injector that needed replacing.
The injector mod is well proven on 4.0's and other Chryslers, even on this forum. There's a reason why OEMs have been updating injector design.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I had half considered the injector mod too since mine are only two hole...
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I had half considered the injector mod too since mine are only two hole...
Do it. My engine ran smooth as butter after the upgrade.
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The ROI in upgraded injectors would be in the several years given how much I drive the car for personal use, or I would...

Plus I can’t find the ones I need in packs of less than 6...
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The ROI in upgraded injectors would be in the several years given how much I drive the car for personal use, or I would...

Plus I can’t find the ones I need in packs of less than 6...
Buy 12 and split them up into three lots of 4. Resell the remaining 8 at a slight mark up - there are bound to be other people who only want 4.

I prioritize the cars I drive most, otherwise my Jeep would be done even with only 20K miles from new the investment is well worth it. I will be doing it on the Celica - my guess is the stockers are single hole -we don't have a lot of non- Chrysler data points.

I plan on contacting some rebuilding companies to see if they can do custom plug and play 12 holes though.
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I wonder how the 'Coupe would respond to new injectors...
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I have gotten 23mpg driving on straight highway miles in my 2003 Jeep Wrangler 6-cylinder automatic with the factory all-terrain tires.

But the Jeep was not built for nor well suited for the highway. So, I put a set of mud grips on the Jeep and use it for what it's best suited for and what I bought it for: off road excursions to productive hunting sites.

With the big mud grips, now my on-highway mileage is about 16 mpg. The off-road mileage varies too much to meaningfully cite, greatly depending on such factors as the low-range or high-range transfer gear I'm using, the number of wheels I'm powering with lockers (two or four), the terrain I'm traversing (level mud or 20-degree rock), the speed I'm going (from a slow shuffle to a moderate walk), etc and etc.

No, the Jeep is not a high MPG car, unless the MPG means Miles Per Grin, which does apply to those of us who don't think pavement is the only road fit for travel.
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I have gotten 23mpg driving on straight highway miles in my 2003 Jeep Wrangler 6-cylinder automatic with the factory all-terrain tires.

But the Jeep was not built for nor well suited for the highway. So, I put a set of mud grips on the Jeep and use it for what it's best suited for and what I bought it for: off road excursions to productive hunting sites.

With the big mud grips, now my on-highway mileage is about 16 mpg. The off-road mileage varies too much to meaningfully cite, greatly depending on such factors as the low-range or high-range transfer gear I'm using, the number of wheels I'm powering with lockers (two or four), the terrain I'm traversing (level mud or 20-degree rock), the speed I'm going (from a slow shuffle to a moderate walk), etc and etc.

No, the Jeep is not a high MPG car, unless the MPG means Miles Per Grin, which does apply to those of us who don't think pavement is the only road fit for travel.
There are some of us who try (not in vain) to get the best of both worlds! I was pleased to average 20 mpg on my last tank.

Update on the fuel filter: I think I'm not going to install it. I think the company is not in business anymore so I wouldn't be able to buy replacement filters.
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Everything's relative. In 8 months of driving my wife's old Xterra, I only got 8 tanks over 20. $#*+ty numbers for a sipper but really, really good numbers for what I was driving.

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