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Old 03-12-2018, 06:00 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Valved hydrogen bubbles. See graysgarage.

a real-world example that approaches the bionic shape is the 1947 Volkhart-Saggitta:



It's Cd was verified in a modern wind tunnel. It has 25hp and a 90mph top speed. One or two examples remain.

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Back then people barely knew what was aerodynamics, and oild was quite cheap.

Was this aerodynamic shape a a coincidence or intentional ?


I would like to see the Cd value for this batmobile :










Uhhnn ????... Where is the batcomputer ???




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Valved hydrogen bubbles. See graysgarage.

a real-world example that approaches the bionic shape is the 1947 Volkhart-Saggitta:



It's Cd was verified in a modern wind tunnel. It has 25hp and a 90mph top speed. One or two examples remain.

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IIRC that's a fan copy of the original 1940 comic book Batmobile.

The Volkhart-Sagitta came out of Zepplin reasearch done in the 1930s. At a time and place where/when they were squeezing fuel out of coal and wood.

https://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.c...urier-car.html

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Based on the KdF-Wagen Typ 60 , aka VW Beetle, it was designed by K.C. Volkhart as a fast courier car for Luftwaffe (German Air Force).Body, designed by Baron Reinhard von Koenig-Fachsenfeld, was built by Helmut Fuchs Niederwenningern/Ruhr. Thanks to its low drag coefficient (0.17 only) the streamline body allowed for speeds up to 150 km/h. The engine, mounted at the rear, was the standard VW 1.1-liter boxer, 24.5 hp.
Koenig-Fachsenfeld's name is scattered all through Ecomodder. IMHO the V2 is the ultimate bubble-top coupe*. The Kofferfisch is more of a van.

*It's competition in that category would be the Mercede-Benz 300SL and the 1964 1/2 Mustang.
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When I first saw I tried to find it in the BYW batman series, but couldn't, since old Batman have a ordinary car.

The comics also have not this version but this :






The Year of the Bat, Part 3 – The Batmobile | The Golden Age of Comic Books

Anyway it's a very nive fan made version, that should had being on some old movie.

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http://editorial.designtaxi.com/news...bile1111/1.jpg

Maybe not the first, but based on an early comic illustration. It's likely in here somewhere: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=history+of+the+batmobile+infographic
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And yet, a lot of the best designs of the thirties hit my eye as more sleek than the aerodynamically superior cars today.

Never mind carbon fiber; where's the hemp?

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The Zeppelin-era cars have the look, but it turns out air is more complicated than was thought.

It's in your new Mercedes:



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Excellent! It's a start at least. If we could get over the stigma, hemp seems more viable than carbon fiber to me, and could be used in a wiiiiiiiiide variety of applications.

I agree the visuals trick the eye - the best of the thirties styling houses were basically just that: stylists who knew how to trick the eye, if not to cheat the wind. Still, I kind of wish stylists took a bit more whimsy from then and from the 50s and at least created some more visually scintillating shapes.
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I search about such fiber (ecologic, suposed cheaper) and just found small pieces for absurd prices.
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