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Old 09-16-2013, 05:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GM working on 200-mile electric car, exec says: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money

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WARREN, Mich. (AP) - As automakers race to make cheaper electric cars with greater battery range, General Motors is working on one that can go 200 miles per charge at a cost of about $30,000, a top company executive said.

Vice President of Global Product Development Doug Parks wouldn't say when or if such a car will be built, however...

... A moderately priced electric car with a 200-mile range would make electric cars more appealing to Americans, solving the two chief complaints about such cars: Anxiety over running out of power and high price, said Tom Libby, lead North American analyst for the Polk automotive research firm.

...The 200-mile car won't be the next-generation Volt. Speaking at a Monday event to show off GM's expanded battery laboratory at its technical center in Warren, a suburb north of Detroit, Parks said that GM engineers are now working on a new Volt, which will go a little father on electricity than the current model and cost a little less. He wouldn't say when it will arrive in showrooms or how much it will cost.

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With current battery prices it should be possible, $18,000 in batteries should be able to power a car for 200 miles if they can keep the watt hours per mile down to 250 watt hours per mile and that is possible with batteries that I can buy at bulk prices right now.
That would be around 1,000 pounds of batteries of course.
As it is the 10 cheapest cars in the USA are $12,800 to $15,300, pull the cost of the gasoline parts and a glider might be as cheap as $10,000, leaving around $2,000 for the motor, controller and everything else.
So it would be tight to make a $30,000 car with a 200 mile range, but possible.
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The GM EV1 was able to go ~55MPH at ~150-160Wh/mile, so that would greatly reduce the battery pack requirement.
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The Nissan Leaf uses 233watt hours per mile at 55mph, but the average American doesn't drive like that! but a 24kwh battery from a Leaf would get it close to that 200 mile range.
Question is, what is the EPA rated range, at 70mph, going to be?
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I could drive to my parents' house!

Also, I could use my electric car as an excuse for not driving further!
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Also, I could use my electric car as an excuse for not driving further!
No! the goal is to make driving so cheap that people will drive everywhere, all the time! once we get self driving cars when you are bored you can just get in your car and travel across the country.
Put 100,000 miles a year on your car because it's so cheap! other then the congestion and road repair costs.
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No! the goal is to make driving so cheap that people will drive everywhere, all the time! once we get self driving cars when you are bored you can just get in your car and travel across the country.
Put 100,000 miles a year on your car because it's so cheap! other then the congestion and road repair costs.
So, if the average goes from 15,000 to 100,000 miles per year, there would be several times as many cars on the road at any given moment.

Would doubling our roads handle that?

Obviously, we need to perfect micro homes and self-driving cars, then we can pave the world and never stop moving from one stretch of asphalt to another!
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I am sure it will turn out like the 238MPG volt and it will be built after the next time our government bails them out.
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Also, I could use my electric car as an excuse for not driving further!
Hmmm I had never considered that.
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