05-24-2015, 02:10 AM
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It is supposed to last the life of the engine. Except the "life of the engine" is undefined.
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The engine being supposed to last the life of the belt would make more sense
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05-24-2015, 12:04 PM
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The only thing that makes me quite skeptical about the 1.0EB is the oil-bathed timing belt.
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The oil pump is belt driven too !
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05-24-2015, 04:22 PM
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The engine being supposed to last the life of the belt would make more sense
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Depends on the life of the belt, which is also undefined.
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05-25-2015, 09:07 AM
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The engine being supposed to last the life of the belt would make more sense
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Unless it is a non-interference engine
Given the increased life of factory engines, I'd bet it is safe to say... 150,000 miles maybe?
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05-25-2015, 02:17 PM
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Unless it is a non-interference engine
Given the increased life of factory engines, I'd bet it is safe to say... 150,000 miles maybe?
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Even if a sudden belt failure wouldn't damage the engine so hardly, let's wait to see the cost for a belt replacement. Maybe that is gonna kill the engine...
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05-25-2015, 02:23 PM
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The belt is very surprisingly under $40. -> 1.0 timing belt
That does not include labor, and with it being sealed, you can guarantee it to be an all day job. 8 hours @ $40-$70/hour
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05-25-2015, 02:31 PM
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Unless it is a non-interference engine
Given the increased life of factory engines, I'd bet it is safe to say... 150,000 miles maybe?
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Way too optimistic buddy. Ford never wanted my Focus or your Escort to last as long as they have. Cars that last lead to less new car sales. As reliable as cars are expected to be today, they OEMs are also trying to keeps sales up. I'm not going to start on about conspiracy theories and tinfoil hats we should be wearing but the ideal customer is someone that buys a new car, doesn't put much money into it assuming it is an indication of reliability, experiences catastrophic failure, thinks to the self "it was a good car until it died, I should get another" and returns to the dealer to buy another shiny new one. OEMs hate people like us who keep their cars going long after their life expectancy is up.
That oil bathed belt sounds like a recipe for disaster on top of the idea that turbos wear and develop excessive shaft play and intercoolers clog with oil from blow-by leads me to think that those cars/engines aren't going to last much past 125,000 miles unless religiously maintained. Junk yard puluts will probably not come with intercoolers and the turbos will need to be replaced or rebuilt, if that is possible.
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05-25-2015, 02:39 PM
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The belt is very surprisingly under $40. -> 1.0 timing belt
That does not include labor, and with it being sealed, you can guarantee it to be an all day job. 8 hours @ $40-$70/hour
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Instead of blowing that money away on labor, could replace the belt as a weekend project, getting beer and some steaks for the entire weekend for those $320-$560.
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05-25-2015, 02:48 PM
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Greensboro to Smithfield drops some 600+ feet in altitude.
My personal Ford experience with my 92 Crown Vic (bot new) is that the acronym "Fix Or Repair Daily" fits the product.
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05-26-2015, 01:02 PM
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Can't find a price on the oil pump belt ...
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