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Old 11-01-2012, 06:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well this was interesting:

Wait a second, They don't put Civic Hybrid wheels on a Honda fit do they?

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Old 11-01-2012, 06:40 PM   #32 (permalink)
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(I wondered if anyone would notice that...)

They did in Canada.

For a few years we had a federal "feebate" incentive program that penalized/rewarded low/high MPG vehicles. The 5-speed Fit's fuel economy fell just outside of the "rebate" reward threshold (theoretically affecting sales), so Honda Canada modded the car to get it into the program: they added LRR tires, the lighter, more aerodynamic hybrid wheels, and changed the alternator control logic. That improved fuel economy enough to get it into the program.

Same with the base Civic 5-speed - it also came with the hybrid LRR tires/wheels & hybrid deck lid spoiler (maybe underbody panels?). So all our base Civics looked just like the hybrid model for a few years, until the program expired.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Good to know in case i wanna buy a used Fit in the future. Get it from Canada! How much mpg increase did they get?
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It wasn't a big change. They only had to improve 0.1 or 0.2 L/100 km to get in the program. Something like going from 6.1 L/100 km to 5.9 L/100 km, or about 38.5 MPG (US) to 39.9 MPG on the NRCan combined rating.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:38 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Our Fit seems to like pretty hardy pulse and glide. Drive steady state and the mileage drops like a rock.
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Fortunately, my demo lap went well and showed him what was possible.
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That was my first time in a Fit.
It just goes to show what's possible, despite it being your first time in a Fit.
If you had as much time in the Fit as the farmer, you'd likely do even better.
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There's definite potential to get much higher numbers.

Remember though, I'm not using any techniques in these sessions that a "normal" driver would consider extreme.
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I like the graphs, interesting to see the effects of the teaching.

I would also like to see some ecomodder videos on different methods besides the simple ones like tire pressure. Quick example... P&G I thought was 10-20mph change from high to low, but when I met up with Weather Spotter, he drops from 55 to around 25mph, much more extreme than I thought it was, no wonder my first attempts failed so badly. It was also interesting sitting in the car with the boat tail, I could see around the car pretty well compaired to what I thought it would be like.

Someone should make ecomodder class videos , something kind of like ABA testing, but maybe more of a BAB demostration (eco driving vs normal vs eco again).
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Quick example... P&G I thought was 10-20mph change from high to low, but when I met up with Weather Spotter, he drops from 55 to around 25mph, much more extreme than I thought it was, no wonder my first attempts failed so badly.
Haha, yeah I normally P&G from 5 over to 5 under unless there is no traffic then I extend it a bit more. I don't think I've ever done 55 to 25 though!
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That is probably why Weather Spotter went from ~55mpg steady speed to 65-70mpg P&G lol. I have an automatic, so P&G is kind of hard on the starter, and eats up most of the gains .

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