Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hybrids
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-03-2024, 07:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
High Altitude Hybrid
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Gunnison, CO
Posts: 2,079

Avalon - '13 Toyota Avalon HV
90 day: 40.45 mpg (US)

Prius - '06 Toyota Prius
Thanks: 1,129
Thanked 584 Times in 463 Posts
How best to get rid of a junk hybrid?

So I've procrastinated at doing this for a long time, but I really should get rid of the 2006 Prius this year. Today was the first day that I couldn't even get it to start. It needs way too many things, and would cost way to much for me to fix, both in time and money. And that's just fixing the things I know are wrong. Who knows what else it needs fixed.

It needs:
  • An engine
  • An HV battery
  • Califoria compliant catalytic converter
  • I'm not sure why it won't start, 12V battery is new and charged and voltage does not dip down past 12.5V
  • Infotainment, heat, A/C all don't work.
  • Instrument cluster doesn't work.
  • Needs a windshield
  • Several other odds and ends need put on, adjusted or buttoned up.

And this is in spite of all the work and parts I've bought for it and tried to get it going. It's also the list of the things I know are wrong, there may be more.

So should I...
  1. Try to sell it or just plain give it away for free?
  2. Try to part it out?
  3. Just haul it off to a junk yard?

PS. I will not be replacing it with anything. THe Avalon will be our only car from now on (not like it hasn't been our only car since we got rid of the Nissan Leaf and the 1972 VW Beetle and 1985 VW Golf diesel, all three of which ran and were road worthy within their respective ranges).

Also, my insurance is some $15/month cheaper with this car on the policy because the multi-car discount is greater than it's increase in insurance. Can I just keep insuring it after I get rid of it?

__________________
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-03-2024, 08:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,805

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,326
Thanked 4,476 Times in 3,441 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary View Post
So should I...
  1. Try to sell it or just plain give it away for free?
  2. Try to part it out?
  3. Just haul it off to a junk yard?

Also, my insurance is some $15/month cheaper with this car on the policy because the multi-car discount is greater than it's increase in insurance. Can I just keep insuring it after I get rid of it?
I'd part out what you can, if you deem that to be worthy of your time. Then get a couple of quotes from junk yards for what they'll pay for what's left of the vehicle.

Switch insurance to get the best rate. It will save you way more than $15/mo.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2024, 08:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
High Altitude Hybrid
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Gunnison, CO
Posts: 2,079

Avalon - '13 Toyota Avalon HV
90 day: 40.45 mpg (US)

Prius - '06 Toyota Prius
Thanks: 1,129
Thanked 584 Times in 463 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
I'd part out what you can, if you deem that to be worthy of your time. Then get a couple of quotes from junk yards for what they'll pay for what's left of the vehicle.
Thanks! That makes sense. I'll try it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
Switch insurance to get the best rate. It will save you way more than $15/mo.
Believe me, I've tried. I tried getting quotes from several insurance places and none were cheaper than CSAA except Progressive. So I went from $130 per month to around $115 by switching to Progressive. But then 6 months later Progressive went up to $185 per month. I called and couldn't get it changed back down. I ended up going back with CSAA for $130 per month.

However, I haven't tried getting a quote with only one car since my insurance will be $145/month with CSAA when I get rid of the car, but I don't see it getting much cheaper. And now that Progressive pulled that on me and in 6 months raised my policy without saying a word. I'm kind of affraid to try another insurance provider in fear I'll end up with this silient price increase again.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2024, 08:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,805

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,326
Thanked 4,476 Times in 3,441 Posts
I need to practice what I preach. Just looked at my policy on the Acura, liability only, and I'm being charged $83/mo. That's for a car that gets driven maybe 1,000 miles per year.

EDIT: Cancelled.

I should probably just insure the car for the day I want to drive it, then cancel the policy and switch to another company 2 months later when I want to drive it again.

... Oregon allows a special account to be opened for the purpose of self-insuring. Perhaps I should do this for vehicles I hardly ever drive. I imagine it would cover any car I drive.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!

Last edited by redpoint5; 04-03-2024 at 08:35 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2024, 08:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
High Altitude Hybrid
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Gunnison, CO
Posts: 2,079

Avalon - '13 Toyota Avalon HV
90 day: 40.45 mpg (US)

Prius - '06 Toyota Prius
Thanks: 1,129
Thanked 584 Times in 463 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
I need to practice what I preach. Just looked at my policy on the Acura, liability only, and I'm being charged $100/mo. That's for a car that gets driven maybe 1,000 miles per year.
The Prius has been driven 0 miles per year for the past 3 years and has cost me $-15 per month. Not bad I guess.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2024, 11:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
Eco-ventor
 
jakobnev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: sweden
Posts: 1,645

Princess - '92 Mazda MX-3 GS
House of Tudor
Team Mazda
90 day: 53.54 mpg (US)

Shirubāarō (*´ω`*) - '05 Toyota Prius Executive
Team Toyota
90 day: 54.88 mpg (US)

Blue Thunder - '20 Hyundai IONIQ Trend PHEV
Team Hyundai
Plug-in Hybrids
90 day: 214.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 76
Thanked 709 Times in 450 Posts
Send a message via MSN to jakobnev
Quote:
I'm not sure why it won't start, 12V battery is new and charged and voltage does not dip down past 12.5V
The Prius uses the HV-battery to start the engine.
__________________




2016: 128.75L for 1875.00km => 6.87L/100km (34.3MPG US)
2017: 209.14L for 4244.00km => 4.93L/100km (47.7MPG US)
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jakobnev For This Useful Post:
redpoint5 (04-04-2024)
Old 04-04-2024, 01:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,805

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,326
Thanked 4,476 Times in 3,441 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakobnev View Post
The Prius uses the HV-battery to start the engine.
That got me thinking that a very simple test to make sure the contactors are closing on the HV battery is to turn the car "on", and see if the 12v battery voltage increases. It should go to ~13.3v when the car is on, and the traction battery is supplying the DC-DC converter.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
Isaac Zachary (04-04-2024)
Old 04-04-2024, 06:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
High Altitude Hybrid
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Gunnison, CO
Posts: 2,079

Avalon - '13 Toyota Avalon HV
90 day: 40.45 mpg (US)

Prius - '06 Toyota Prius
Thanks: 1,129
Thanked 584 Times in 463 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakobnev View Post
The Prius uses the HV-battery to start the engine.
That could possibly be the problem. But since there's no red triangle, and I'm not sure if the red triangle light even works, I guess I could try to connect with the Torque app to see if another module has failed.

However, a bad HV battery usually will still start the car, at least after unplugging the 12V and trying again. But I get zero response. The only thing that displays on the dash is the open door symbol.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2024, 07:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
JSH
AKA - Jason
 
JSH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,601

Adventure Seeker - '04 Chevy Astro - Campervan
90 day: 17.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 325
Thanked 2,147 Times in 1,454 Posts
I would part what you can and then send it to the scrap yard or call one of those guys that will pay you $50 a haul away a car.

These guys will buy the battery: https://www.hybridrestoration.com/recycling

Both of those insurance prices sound very high to me. For 6 months I pay $297 for the 2011 Acura TSX and $341 for the 2017 Bolt. I have the liability max to $500K and a $100 deductible for comp and $250 for collision. So I'm paying the equivalent of $106 a month for 2 cars and living in a major metro area.

You both mentioned a monthly rate. Hopefully you aren't actually paying for insurance by the month as that costs 15 - 20% more than paying every 6 months or yearly. (Progressive's longest payment term is every 6 months for auto)

Do you guys bundle? When I shop insurance I shop everything together: Homeowners, auto, motorcycle, umbrella, RV.

EDIT: I also did the Progressive Snapshot offer where they track your driving for 30 days. That dropped my rate 25%
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
MetroMPG (04-29-2024)
Old 04-04-2024, 08:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,690
Thanks: 8,143
Thanked 8,923 Times in 7,366 Posts
I notice the remittance slip they send for my payment has room for four digits. IOW up to $9,999/mo..

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com