Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-19-2009, 03:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
In Lean Burn Mode
 
pgfpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,428

MisFit Talon - '91 Eagle Talon TSi
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 41.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,031
Thanked 484 Times in 316 Posts
How many Ecomodder's are running management?

I was wondering how many of us are using some type of aftermarket engine management?

I'm running Neptune on my Del Sol and Crome Pro on my son's Civic. Both of these cars are turbo-charged. But it got me thinking what the gains you could get from a N/A engine with management?

So is there anyone on here using a after market management system on a N/A engine? If so what improvements have you seen?

__________________
Pressure Gradient Force
The Positive Side of the Number Line

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 09-19-2009, 07:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
dcb
needs more cowbell
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ˙
Posts: 5,038

pimp mobile - '81 suzuki gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Volkswagen Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 158
Thanked 267 Times in 210 Posts
I think anyone running a megasquirt would qualify (CoyoteX figures prominently but there are some others using it):
megasquirt site:ecomodder.com - Google Search
* *MegaSquirt - Electronic Fuel Injection Computer by Bowling & Grippo * *

Kit Carlson designed/made his own ECU based on the atmega:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ment-5104.html

I'm not fluent in the commercial offerings though, but here is a google of ecomodder for "neptune"
neptune site:ecomodder.com - Google Search

I imagine there is some of this sort of thing going on in the xprize entries, zerofuel needed a custom controller IIRC, not sure if jpstaub (tdi/insight guy) did or not.

Might also consider people who are modifying sensor signals to trick the ecu into doing what they want, i.e. an efie (tweaks o2 sensor signal)
http://www.google.com/search?source=...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

and/or faking out the IAT signal, etc...
__________________
WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

Last edited by dcb; 09-19-2009 at 08:14 AM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 11:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 6,447

Vegan Powa! - '91 Honda CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 92
Thanked 119 Times in 87 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy
I used to run Chrome, but no longer. I will probably have MIMA in the future, if that counts
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 01:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Western NC
Posts: 177
Thanks: 3
Thanked 43 Times in 19 Posts
I currently use eCtune with my turbo civic. A few years ago cromepro nearly turned me insane.

I'll have to buy more hardware for the new NA project though - won't be too long. The initial costs of tuning are tremendous
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 01:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
In Lean Burn Mode
 
pgfpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,428

MisFit Talon - '91 Eagle Talon TSi
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 41.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,031
Thanked 484 Times in 316 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by greasemonkee View Post
I currently use eCtune with my turbo civic. A few years ago cromepro nearly turned me insane.

I'll have to buy more hardware for the new NA project though - won't be too long. The initial costs of tuning are tremendous
Yea cromepro has some glitches .lol
__________________
Pressure Gradient Force
The Positive Side of the Number Line

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 01:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
In Lean Burn Mode
 
pgfpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,428

MisFit Talon - '91 Eagle Talon TSi
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 41.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,031
Thanked 484 Times in 316 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVOboy View Post
I used to run Chrome, but no longer. I will probably have MIMA in the future, if that counts
What kind of gains did you see from your tuning verses stock Honda maps?
__________________
Pressure Gradient Force
The Positive Side of the Number Line

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 01:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 6,447

Vegan Powa! - '91 Honda CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 92
Thanked 119 Times in 87 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgfpro View Post
What kind of gains did you see from your tuning verses stock Honda maps?
No idea, I didn't have any fuel consumption metering at that point, so I didn't pay any attention, I was primarily using it to turn off codes and run a different basemap, but I went to the z1 about a month afterwards so I never had time to sit down and mess around
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 04:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
eco....something or other
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Colfax, WI
Posts: 717

wood hauler - '91 Ford F-250
Team Pontiac
90 day: 18.97 mpg (US)

Rav - '06 Toyota Rav4 Base
90 day: 26.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 39
Thanked 59 Times in 45 Posts
I'm not using management, but if it would help enough, i would try it...

I figure if i can do this well with a heavy car and only half the mods and no Scangauge, i am in good shoes and should be able to hit 50 if i go high dollar.(just don't have the money, i spend it on gas, HAHAHA even at almost 40 mpg...)
__________________



1991 F-250:
4.9L, Mazda 5 speed, 4.10 10.25" rear
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 05:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 529 Times in 356 Posts
pgfpro -

If I knew then (early 2006) what I know now, I think I would have invested in an Apex EFI.

CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 06:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
In Lean Burn Mode
 
pgfpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,428

MisFit Talon - '91 Eagle Talon TSi
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 41.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,031
Thanked 484 Times in 316 Posts
Thanks for all the replys.

I find it interesting that one can improve on FE and performance over the factory and still pass emissions.

I have tuned over 10+ cars that have reported fuel mileage is now better then stock. Also 8 of the 10 of these vehicles are now FI.

I think that at the OEM level they can't get to aggressive with there timing tables. Plus they don't have individual timing and and fuel trims etc.

__________________
Pressure Gradient Force
The Positive Side of the Number Line

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cost of running an Engine Block Heater Matt Herring General Efficiency Discussion 8 08-14-2009 11:50 PM
Keep A/C from running when you don't need it. TeamCF EcoModding Central 13 04-06-2009 12:55 PM
A Running Log website similar to EcoModder? 1337 Off-Topic Tech 2 03-12-2009 04:28 AM
Any Williamsburg, VA area ecomodders? wydaily Introductions 2 06-13-2008 11:35 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com