How much energy does it take to produce a gallon of gasoline?

[Dr. Jerryrigger]

Originally Posted by Patrick

So suppose you don't use any fertilizer and then use ethanol to do the distilling? And run all the farm implements on ethanol? Is that not sustainable?



And you'll just have to change your DNA every 30 minutes.

That would be sustainable, as that would be a closed loop, which takes CO2 from the air and makes in into fuel, then turns back to CO2.

I don't think anyone is going to try to do this. Corn farmers loose money growing corn, only gov subsidies put them back in the black (well some of them). So it is not economical for them to do anything that would reduce their yields. The subsidies reward using huge amounts of land and growing lot and lots of low quality feed corn (with the cheapest most effective fertilizers available).

For ethanol to truly be sustainable it would be far to expensive for anyone to use. Unless, that is, there is a major change in the whole system.
Personally I have my bet on algae or other microbes being the sustainable fuel choice of years to come.

Why is everyone so afraid of nuclear energy? A tiny reactor could be sealed well... until you crash in to something.... or hit too many pot holes... or the cooling rods stick, and your car has a meltdown.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jerryrigger

Why is everyone so afraid of nuclear energy? A tiny reactor could be sealed well... until you crash in to something.... or hit too many pot holes... or the cooling rods stick, and your car has a meltdown.

...are you talking about a Detroit-Made SUV-Nuclear-reactor, or an Japanese or European made reactor (wink,wink)?

...GM could name it the '3-Mile-Island SUV'.

[silverinsight2]

May I present the Ford Nucleon

[gone-ot]

...late 1950's, right?

[Christ]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

...are you talking about a Detroit-Made SUV-Nuclear-reactor, or an Japanese or European made reactor (wink,wink)?

...GM could name it the '3-Mile-Island SUV'.

That's not funny... I used to live near TMI. I almost contracted to work there installing tile, but my contractor douched out of the deal before I could get certified.

[gone-ot]

...it could have a "one-of-a-kind" bluish GLOW-IN-THE-DARK paint scheme!

[Christ]

lmao... The tiles we were supposed to be installing were lined with lead... Wonder why they were putting those in the staff rooms? (Rest rooms, included.)

[gone-ot]

...I can visualize the DOT safety label on the radiator:

CAUTION -- DO NOT OPEN CAP WHILE REACTOR IS REACTING.

[Christ]

"Hey, bro, we heard you like reactions, so we put a reactor in your reactor to see how you'd react... "

LOL. I hate myself sometimes.

[gone-ot]

...the new car logo, a "mushroom cloud"?